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David0:00Moment view
What's up guys, welcome back to Views, the podcast where I took out my contacts before this to avoid eye contact with Jason.
Jason0:06Moment view
Oh well, it's also the podcast where I took out a hit on your body that will be coming any day now. I'm connected with the mob, I'm affiliated.
David0:17Moment view
You hired someone to kill me?
Jason0:18Moment view
I did. Oh, wrong guy, you fucking idiot!
David0:25Moment view
Okay, shit, this is a podcast for 7-year-olds.
Jason0:30Moment view
We need to put a gunshot in there.
David0:32Moment view
Someone added in a gunshot here. I'll, I'll, I'll add it in later. Okay, cool. Okay, all right, roll that show music. Um, what's up guys, this is our podcast. Have you ever had a friend that's hired someone for a hit? Um, have you ever, have you ever been around someone that's hired an assassin?
Jason0:57Moment view
No, I watch a lot of Dateline though.
David0:59Moment view
What's Dateline?
Jason1:00Moment view
Dateline's a show on NBC where they, um, they catch people who— yeah, they catch people who do that. So women, a lot of like— I see a lot of stories where husbands and wives, they'll hire, um, you know, they'll hire a guy to kill them, and then, you know, it'll be all recorded because she's set up. So like the husband will sniff it out, be like, I think she's trying to kill me.
David1:19Moment view
Why would they want their husband dead? For the money?
Jason1:21Moment view
Yeah, for the money. I took out a big insurance policy the other day.
David1:24Moment view
What does that mean?
Jason1:25Moment view
It means I'm working with you And Marnie and I thought that it'd probably be good to take a life insurance policy out.
David1:33Moment view
I just don't understand that phrase, taking a big life insurance policy out.
Jason1:37Moment view
It's just like people do that when you get older. You're like, you know, so if you—
David1:40Moment view
you go to the bank—
Jason1:42Moment view
no, you don't even go to the bank. You have a life insurance person come to your house and you say, how much do you want? What are you worth? And how much do you want to spend? You know, if you spend, I think it's like $1,000 a year, I think you're worth— it's $1 million per every $1,000 you spend.
David1:58Moment view
Wait, what?
Jason1:59Moment view
Yeah, it's really dark shit. Like, it's, it's to sit there with my ex-wife and be like, okay, let's plan for the end.
David2:06Moment view
You go, you, you give them money, and then when you die, they give you all that money back?
Jason2:11Moment view
Uh, if something happens, like, let's say you and I are flying to New York.
David2:15Moment view
Yeah.
Jason2:16Moment view
And the plane goes down, and you live, of course.
David2:18Moment view
Of course. Why would I die? Okay.
Jason2:23Moment view
Um, well, you have an invincible complex. That's great. I was like that too at one point.
David2:28Moment view
Well, I just jump out of the plane the second it's pretty close to the ground, so just be like me jumping off like a 5-foot, 5-foot drop.
Jason2:35Moment view
Right, right, right, right. So at the last second you'll time it and I'll just jump up. Yeah.
David2:39Moment view
Have you seen that in your vans, in your red vans? Have you seen that myth like when there's an elevator crashing down to the bottom of the floor, if you jump the last second you can survive?
Jason2:48Moment view
Is that True?
David2:49Moment view
No, it's not true. Oh, but how fucking crazy would that be?
Jason2:52Moment view
How could you get out?
David2:54Moment view
Well, that's a different problem. Jump to what?
Jason2:56Moment view
Like, I mean, like jump up, you know what I mean? Oh, jump up.
David2:59Moment view
Like you jump up the second it's almost about to hit the ground. That was on Myth— it was on Mythbusters and it was busted. Anyway, you're saying— you're saying— let me just explain this. Someone came to your house yesterday from the insurance company.
Jason3:10Moment view
Yeah.
David3:11Moment view
And you guys talked about what would happen if you randomly die.
Jason3:14Moment view
Yeah.
David3:15Moment view
And you actually did this?
Jason3:16Moment view
Actually.
David3:17Moment view
Okay.
Jason3:17Moment view
Yeah, we're going through the process. I have to get a physical.
David3:19Moment view
So how does this work?
Jason3:21Moment view
So whatever you choose to spend— I'm not going to tell you how much I'm worth because then, I don't know, then maybe someone will kill me or something.
David3:27Moment view
No one's gonna want your $20,000.
Jason3:29Moment view
Well, whatever it is, then you have to sit there and be like, all right, you know, how much money would be enough for Wyatt and Charlie to live on?
David3:38Moment view
I can just see negotiating with these people. Okay, I think I'm worth $5 million. They're like, sir, sir, we've seen your videos, so you are not worth $5 million. We can offer you $10 right now, and next year we can talk about raising a little bit.
Jason3:54Moment view
That's a funny comedy sketch, David, but it's not how it works. It's whatever you pay is what you get.
David3:59Moment view
Oh, okay.
Jason4:00Moment view
So for every $1,000 you spend per year is worth a million. So let's say you wanted to spend $10,000, you'd be worth $10 million if you died.
David4:08Moment view
Are you serious?
Jason4:09Moment view
Yeah. Yeah.
David4:11Moment view
I mean, so, so I could, I could give them $30,000 and I'm worth $30 million?
Jason4:17Moment view
Yeah.
David4:18Moment view
Jason, that makes no sense.
Jason4:20Moment view
What are you talking about?
David4:21Moment view
And then who does the money go to?
Jason4:22Moment view
You have to— $30,000 every year for 20 years.
David4:25Moment view
Oh, for 20 years?
Jason4:26Moment view
Yeah. Yeah.
David4:27Moment view
But what if I die before that?
Jason4:30Moment view
Um, I was wondering that too. I'm like, what if you die 5 years in? I guess you still get it. Or maybe you get some of it or a portion of it. I'm not sure. But anyways, this is, this is, this is what it's like to be 45, David.
David4:43Moment view
That's crazy. So this is pretty depressing. So people take out these policies and then their wife knows that they have one.
Jason4:49Moment view
Yeah.
David4:49Moment view
And then they kill them and they get $30 million or $5 million or whatever.
Jason4:53Moment view
Marnie texted me. She's like, don't kill me. I was like, she texted you? Yeah.
David4:58Moment view
Your ex-wife? Yeah.
Jason4:58Moment view
She was like, you better not try and kill me. And I was like, that's not even funny at all. She's like, I'm just saying. She's like, I'm, I'm, you know, I'm worth a lot now. And I was like, I'm like, that's not a funny joke.
David5:11Moment view
How much is she paying?
Jason5:12Moment view
We're paying a lot. Yeah, yeah, because Marnie's very, uh, there's one of the reasons why we got divorced was— not one of the reasons why we got divorced, but she's just, she's a worrywart. She's very like, she thinks the worst. She's Jewish. And so am I. So— but she's very more Jewish and she's very worried.
David5:30Moment view
More Jewish.
Jason5:30Moment view
Have you ever talked to Josh? Josh Bechel attests to this. So a lot of Jews are very like worried because, because of the Holocaust, you know, we worry a lot and she's— she worries a real lot.
David5:39Moment view
So you guys are both worth a lot of money?
Jason5:42Moment view
Not yet. I mean, I haven't passed the physical.
David5:44Moment view
Oh, fuck, you don't pass that.
Jason5:48Moment view
Get the fuck out of here.
David5:50Moment view
We can't offer you— we can't offer you this policy. Our tests show that you're going to drop dead in the next couple of months.
Jason5:56Moment view
Yeah, you don't know.
David5:57Moment view
Well, that's fucking brutal. I didn't know that. I'm sorry to hear that, dude.
Jason6:00Moment view
You're so lucky you're 22 and you're just chilling.
David6:03Moment view
I just found out what a life insurance policy is.
Jason6:06Moment view
I know.
David6:07Moment view
I have no fucking worries.
Jason6:08Moment view
Like, I feel bad I even told you about it. Like, why do you even need that in your brain space?
David6:12Moment view
Well, here's the thing. I went to the bank yesterday and the guy was like, for tax purposes, You need to put away $50 grand to your retirement fund. And he's like, you'll save money. And I can't even fucking wrap my head around it. I'm like, I won't be able to touch this money till I'm supposedly at one point in my life 59 years old. I was like, get the fuck out of here. I'm never going to be 59 years old. There is no way I want to do this. And I can't do it because I genuinely, I am so naive and dumb and young and sexy that, um, that I, I just don't think I'm gonna get to 59.
Jason6:50Moment view
He's at the computer. I don't know, it's not— it won't go in. Well, could it be that he's too sexy?
David7:00Moment view
Um, yeah, I don't know. I just, I just don't. And that's why I didn't do it, because I'm like, I don't want to save— I don't want to save $20 grand on taxes by giving away $50 grand that I won't be able to see till I'm fucking half dead? I don't know. It just sounds— it just sounds weird to me.
Jason7:14Moment view
But, bro, you're not going to— you're not going to spend it anyway. You have a nice house already.
David7:18Moment view
I agree. I agree.
Jason7:19Moment view
And you're not a— you're not a frivolous person.
David7:20Moment view
I don't know.
Jason7:21Moment view
Just do it. It's so— David, I wish I did it.
David7:24Moment view
Would you kill your wife?
Jason7:27Moment view
Ex?
David7:28Moment view
Would you?
Jason7:28Moment view
No.
David7:29Moment view
No.
Jason7:30Moment view
What kind of question is that? Why do people— why would you?
David7:32Moment view
I love how the first thing you corrected me on was she's my ex. David, would I kill my ex-wife? And yes, I would. Thank you.
Jason7:40Moment view
Never. I care deeply about her.
David7:42Moment view
Okay, but if she wasn't the mother of your kids, would you kill her? No, no, no. Have you ever almost killed another person for screwing you over? I'm trying to think if I've ever been enraged, uh, because I mean, I feel like there's, there's justified—
Jason7:57Moment view
I would never try to kill anybody.
David7:58Moment view
There's a justified time to kill a person.
Jason8:01Moment view
I mean, if someone tried to—
David8:01Moment view
that's like if they've tried to fucking literally hurt your kids to the point where, like, if they stolen your kids and they wanted to kill them, that's a justified time to go and just fucking destroy these people.
Jason8:12Moment view
I've thought about that. I've thought about people that have done stuff to my kids and like, okay, but I don't think anybody has done anything so bad to your kids yet. No, no one has. But I've certainly like, I've certainly been in situations where I thought someone was dangerous and like I've had my camera with me and I play out like an entire fantasy in my head where you like take off the lens and you throw it in their eyeball and then use the rest of the camera to beat their skull in. No, exactly, like our cannons that we have, our ADDs, they're, you know, I've been in that situation, like, okay, if he comes at me, you just fucking start bashing his head. You just start bashing his—
David8:43Moment view
That used to be my biggest thing as a kid when I was in high school. That's all I would think about is I would sit in class and I'd be like, okay, this is, I'm telling you, I think about this every day. School shooter walks in right now. Oh my God. What do I do? Every time, every time I would think about this.
Jason9:00Moment view
Really?
David9:00Moment view
And all the— like, it's crazy because I've said this before and a lot of kids agree with me. A lot of kids go through the situation.
Jason9:06Moment view
Yeah.
David9:07Moment view
And like every time in my head, which is— I probably wouldn't do this in real life. I would be like, okay, he walks in, I'm going to kick him in the shins and I'm going to grab his gun. And then in front of the entire class, I'm going to put it into his mouth. You know what I mean?
Jason9:19Moment view
Right.
David9:20Moment view
Like I have these like crazy—
Jason9:21Moment view
like play the whole thing out.
David9:22Moment view
Yeah. Which isn't true because I fucking know if that happened, I'd fucking shit myself the first second. But like, But like, I would always— like, in church, I would always— every time I would be in church, I would imagine like gunmen coming into the church from all angles. And all of a sudden, me adopting these superpowers and me flying— this is fucking real— and me flying through the pews and grabbing all their guns and saving everyone in the church. And this is every time. I don't know if this is some weird like, like complex I have, but like, I would always imagine myself with superpowers.
Jason9:54Moment view
Oh my God.
David9:55Moment view
Saving, saving the day.
Jason9:56Moment view
We were talking about this last night. We were talking about when I used to be single and I would go on Tinder and I would see someone's picture, like a girl, and you're like, and you're like, oh, she looks nice. And then maybe like she says like she likes Family Guy, and you're like, I like Family Guy, you know. And then like she would like text, maybe you text like hi and she texts back like hi, and then I would like play out this entire life with this woman off of Hi and her picture, and then be like— and like, I remember specifically, like, she worked in like film and television. Like, oh, well, maybe she knows so-and-so and we could double date. And they're like, oh, she lives in Santa Monica.
David10:34Moment view
Oh, that's interesting.
Jason10:35Moment view
Oh, I would love to meet— oh, I want to spend more time. And you play out this entire—
David10:38Moment view
I want to spend more time in Santa Monica.
Jason10:40Moment view
Yeah. And you play out this entire life with this person. And that was why Tinder sucked so much. And then you sit there and you craft like the perfect thing, you know, and then, you know, you never hear from them. But you spent the entire night.
David10:52Moment view
That's interesting. I, I remember, I remember like that in high school. Like, if I ever liked I would be like, okay, so like— and I would be very careful with like the first words I would say to her.
Jason11:01Moment view
Sure.
David11:02Moment view
Because I'd be like, the first words I'm gonna say to her are words we're gonna remember when we're married. Like, that's how I would think. So I'd be like, what do I want my like first line to be? So when we're married and have kids and someone asks us at like a dinner party and they're like, how'd you guys meet? We can go back to this moment and we could tell them exactly how it happened.
Jason11:21Moment view
What was one of your first lines?
David11:24Moment view
Sup bitch? Sup bitch, congratulations. I'm interested. No, I've never actually had like a really good pickup line. I don't know. I'm pretty like on the spot. I don't— so I don't have anything like— I don't have anything planned.
Jason11:39Moment view
Yeah.
David11:40Moment view
Yes, yes. The other day we were in the car with you and your girlfriend Trisha.
Jason11:44Moment view
Yeah.
David11:45Moment view
And you brought up like dieting. You brought up like a diet plan with your ex-wife.
Jason11:48Moment view
Oh, I know.
David11:50Moment view
And you were like, yeah, my ex-wife put on a diet plan.
Jason11:53Moment view
We were starving. Yeah, we were actually so hungry.
David11:56Moment view
Yeah, you guys went on this crazy diet plan where you guys like were eating very little, and it was both of you, and Trisha got mad that you were sharing a story about you and your ex-wife. Yeah. And then she goes, she goes, yeah, well, my ex-boyfriend fucked me so hard to rip my pussy open. That's what she said. She fucking said— she's like— and, and then I'm like, Trisha, what? And she's like, yeah, my ex-boyfriend would have like sex with me 5 times a day and it would just make my vagina bleed. It was just insane. I just can't believe— like, I can't believe I had sex like that much. It was so good. And we're just like, what the fuck are you saying? And she's like, well, I'm just— uh, Jason's sharing a story about his ex-wife, so I'm just sharing a story about my ex. No hard feelings or anything. It's literally— I'm not trying— I'm like, Trisha, you're literally doing that to piss him off. And she's like, no, no, no, no, I'm not. I'm just trying to share a story too. I thought that was fucking insane. That was so funny. What do you say to that?
Jason12:47Moment view
You saw me. I mean, you, you, you pointed it out. Yeah. What did you say next?
David12:51Moment view
Yeah, I told, I told Trisha, I'm like, Trisha, notice how Jason isn't like, isn't stooping down to that level and trying to piss you off. Because you could have very easily been like, yeah, you could have said anything and be like, yeah, well, I had 2 kids with my ex-wife. I made sure to finish inside her, and we, we made 2 human beings out of it because that's how much, that's how much we loved each other.
Jason13:11Moment view
Yeah.
David13:12Moment view
I mean, that's, that's That's really funny.
Jason13:15Moment view
Um, yeah, you can't put gas on it. Yeah, she gets in those little moods where she gets snippy, and then, and then like later that night she's like, I'm sorry I said that.
David13:23Moment view
Yeah, I know. Okay.
Jason13:24Moment view
And you know what it was?
David13:25Moment view
It got better. Like, she was starving. She was starving.
Jason13:27Moment view
She gets really nasty when she's hungry. And I do too.
David13:30Moment view
Yeah, a lot of people in LA get really nasty. This is like the most nastiest town I've ever met when people— I've ever been in when people get hungry. Yeah, I just said LA is the nastiest town I've ever met. That's kind of weird. Um, speaking of kind of weird— well, that's— no, that's a bad transition. Fuck. Today's show is sponsored by Talkspace, the online therapy company that lets you message a licensed therapist from anywhere at any time. All you need is a computer with internet connection or the Talkspace mobile app. That means you can improve your mental health even if you're having trouble making time for it in the past. And yesterday was like National Mental Health Awareness Day, right?
Jason14:03Moment view
That's right.
David14:04Moment view
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Jason15:06Moment view
Therapy's the absolute best. I love going.
David15:10Moment view
I don't know why this reminded me of this, but like, have you ever had like someone— have you ever had like a friend that like a friend's friend that died?
Jason15:17Moment view
Yeah.
David15:17Moment view
And like they were really close to them and a friend would continuously like still text them?
Jason15:22Moment view
No.
David15:23Moment view
Oh, you, you never have that?
Jason15:25Moment view
No.
David15:26Moment view
It's really fucking weird. Like, it'd be like— so it's not weird, it's, it's like, it's almost comforting. It's like, it's not weird. I think I take the weird part back, but it's like, it's wild. It's like someone will die, it's the darkest thing I've ever heard, and they'll text them every night.
Jason15:41Moment view
Oh.
David15:41Moment view
And they'll be like, hey, are you— I'm thinking about you. And it's just, it'll be just a long list of text messages sent.
Jason15:48Moment view
It's so sad.
David15:49Moment view
The person responding, and it's not dark, it's sad. Yeah. And, and then it's, and then it's also like to the point where like they'll leave them voice messages just to hear their— this has happened. I think 2 of my friends have done this. And then they'll call the person that passed away, and they'll hear their, hey, hey, it's Jimmy. Leave a message after the beep. Boom. And they'll be like, Jimmy, it's really nice to hear your voice. I miss you. I was thinking about you all day today. And it gets especially sad when the mailbox fills up. Oh.
Jason16:20Moment view
Oh.
David16:20Moment view
Yeah, I know. And they can't leave a message anymore. I don't know why this took such a fucking dark turn.
Jason16:26Moment view
That'd be a great movie. That'd be the great, like, page 10 of a movie. But for some reason, the guy picks up.
David16:31Moment view
I think there's an episode— there's an episode of Black Mirror. Do you know Black Mirror? Where, where we're so far into the future that, um, that you can, you can send all your information from your loved one that passed away to this software and it learns how to talk like them. So you can start texting them and they respond just as if they were a loved one after they were gone. And then it gets smarter and smarter to the point where you can call your loved one and it's learned their voice and it's learned their jokes and it's learned their sarcasm and you're still talking to them.
Jason17:04Moment view
Oh, that episode sounds better than mine.
David17:07Moment view
What?
Jason17:07Moment view
That episode sounds better than mine.
David17:09Moment view
What's your episode?
Jason17:10Moment view
Well, mine was just the person picks up.
David17:13Moment view
Yeah, that would be pretty horrifying.
Jason17:14Moment view
That's probably why I would not arrange it.
David17:15Moment view
How would they answer? "Hey, I'm not dead," or "Hey, I'm dead, stop fucking calling me." "Hey, I get your fucking calls up in heaven. I'm having a fucking amazing time. Please stop calling my phone.
Jason17:25Moment view
I thought I got rid of you." Hey, I had a guy come up to me. I had a Postmate come to my house the other day. And tell me what you would've said for this. He gives me the food. He's a skinny kid. And he goes, He goes, yo, man. He goes, I gotta ask you, man. You got a minute? And I go, yeah. And he goes, what do I gotta do to live in a neighborhood like this? In a house like this?
David17:52Moment view
What did you fucking say, you douche?
Jason17:54Moment view
I said, what do you do? I said, what do you do? And he goes, well, I love to dance. I love to dance. He's like, I'm passionate about dancing, and I'm a great dancer. And I was like, okay, that's good. That's good.
David18:10Moment view
It's not gonna pay the bills.
Jason18:12Moment view
I did.
David18:13Moment view
You said that?
Jason18:13Moment view
I said, well, what's important to you? I said, is money really important to you or is dance more important to you? And he goes, both, both. And I said, well, do you know a lot of dancers that are really wealthy? And he's like, no, no. And I was like, Well, I was like, you're gonna have to choose.
David18:38Moment view
And he left crying.
Jason18:39Moment view
He didn't. He didn't. And I just said, um, I mean, what would you have said?
David18:44Moment view
This is a really intimate conversation with your—
Jason18:48Moment view
I'm blunt with people. Remember the kid at USC? He was like, I want to be an actor. And I was like, why aren't you acting? I said, it'll never work.
David18:54Moment view
Yeah.
Jason18:55Moment view
And then we saw the kid the other night. Did you hear that? Did you catch that story the other night?
David18:58Moment view
Yeah, we, uh, we went to USC and And this guy recognizes from the videos and he's like, I want to be an actor. And Jason's like, there's no point. It's never going to fucking work. And Brandon's standing right next to Jason and Brandon's like, Jason, you can't say that. Listen, buddy, it's going to work. Just, just go on, go on acting lessons. You know what? I'm going to follow you on Instagram right now and you can be one of my shorts. And the kid was fucking ecstatic.
Jason19:25Moment view
Yes, he was. I said that. I said, Brandon, if you're going to talk such a big game, put him in one of your shorts.
David19:30Moment view
Yeah. So Brandon's like, okay, I'll follow him. So Brandon followed him on Instagram, and then the next day— sorry, next day— literally 7 months later, where Brandon has a live show podcast— this was, this was 2 days ago— Brandon has a live show where he's doing a podcast with his buddy Ry, and Jason's on it as a guest. And that same kid is sitting in the audience, and he— and it's the Q&A portion of the podcast, and the kid raises his hand and goes, hey, um, don't know if you remember me, I'm from USC. Um, Brandon, I just want to know 'Why the fuck did you unfollow me?' And Brandon goes, 'Oh my fucking goodness, are you that kid? Are you the kid that wants to be an actor?' And the kid's like, 'Yep.' And Brandon's like, 'I don't know. I don't know. I am so sorry. You know what? I'm going to follow you again,' because he got guilty, so he followed him again. And Jason goes, 'Are you acting?' And he's like, 'No, not yet.' And Jason's like, 'I told you.' So funny. So yeah, fucked. It's—
Jason20:33Moment view
I don't, I don't mean to be like, you know, what's the word, David?
David20:37Moment view
A Debbie Downer.
Jason20:38Moment view
Yeah, I don't mean like to put young people down. Pessimist. Well, a pessimist. Yeah, but it's almost like I'm almost challenging you. If you come up to me and say that, I'm challenging you to, to do something.
David20:48Moment view
You are. I mean, because I, I, it's like I feel like every, every good success story starts with people going, you can't do that.
Jason20:55Moment view
Right.
David20:55Moment view
You can't do that.
Jason20:56Moment view
I wish someone was honest with me.
David20:58Moment view
But you don't do it in a negative way. You do it in a really sad way where you make it sound really realistic. You go, "Hey, man, that sounds great, but it's probably just not gonna work." No, I don't.
Jason21:09Moment view
No, I don't. I say it like this. I say, "Are you acting right now?" They go, "No." I go, "It'll never work." You're right.
David21:15Moment view
Okay, you're right.
Jason21:15Moment view
And you know what, David? I wish someone was honest with me.
David21:18Moment view
And tell you that it would never work?
Jason21:20Moment view
I wish someone was more honest with me. I wouldn't have wasted so much time in my life.
David21:24Moment view
But all that time got you to here.
Jason21:26Moment view
I got really lucky to get to here. The only reason I'm here is because I couldn't do anything else. I should have quit a million times. If I had any other skill, if I was a woodworker, if I could cook, if I could do anything, I wouldn't be here. So in a way, that was a gift.
David21:41Moment view
But I don't know, man. I think, I think it all— I think— I don't think you got lucky. I think that's how the cookie crumbles. I mean, you definitely wouldn't have gotten here if you didn't have your failed acting career, that's why you're so funny is because everything went fucking horribly for you. Everything in your life, Jason.
Jason21:58Moment view
Okay.
David21:58Moment view
Sorry, sorry.
Jason21:59Moment view
They get it.
David22:04Moment view
No, but yeah, the other day we were with Vardan, who's what, 12 years old?
Jason22:08Moment view
12.
David22:09Moment view
And he brought up the podcast, and he's like, I really, really, really love your podcast, David. And then he goes, "Jason, I love yours too." And we're like, "What the fuck? We have the same podcast. We're on the same podcast together." And Jason's like, "Varun, whose podcast do you like more?" And Varun's like, "I listen to David's the most, but it's the funniest when you're on it, Jason." He goes, "I like it when Jason talks on Jason's, and I like it when David's on his, but the ones I like the best are when you guys are on together.
Jason22:50Moment view
I guess it's right now.
David22:52Moment view
So, so, Bardan, if you're listening, this is probably one of your favorite podcasts of mine because Jason's on this one. And if you listen to Jason's, this is probably your favorite podcast of Jason's because I'm on his. Or Bardan, if I, if I want to break it to you, we actually share the same podcast. He's, he's a pretty, he's a pretty funny kid. He's He's very young, and I don't know, he's very fucking interesting.
Jason23:14Moment view
Are you, are you just baffled by that family?
David23:16Moment view
Like, yeah, the entire family. I mean, I've talked to a lot of people, and everyone comes up to me and, and they say, you're sitting on, you're sitting on a million dollars, you're sitting on like a multi-million dollar deal with that family. Like, they're literally—
Jason23:29Moment view
anyone that knows what they're talking about say that to you?
David23:31Moment view
Yes, bro. I've had, I had someone call me that works at Instagram yesterday, and they're like, you're sitting on a gold brick, right? Like, you're sitting on— you're sitting on something huge. Like, this family, the entire family— I don't know if you watch my videos, the people listening, but there's this family that's just so fucking crazy. And I don't know, it's hard to explain. You should watch the videos and you don't know what I'm talking about. Um, did you— I got into this, I got into Elon Musk's simulation theory the other day. Have you seen that?
Jason23:59Moment view
Whoa, David, okay. Yeah, one of those sounds great coming off the tongue. You sound so smart.
David24:04Moment view
Yeah, one of my friends introduced me to it.
Jason24:08Moment view
Are you smoking a cigar?
David24:09Moment view
Yeah. Yeah. Are you smoking a clove? Am I in a tuxedo? Yes, I'm in a tuxedo now. If people know this theory, I may not do it any justice and I may say it completely wrong.
Jason24:20Moment view
Yeah.
David24:20Moment view
But this is my first understanding of it, so please don't fucking scream at me if I got it wrong. So basically, this is what it is. I'm going to read you one of the quotes. Pay attention. Basically, Elon Musk thinks there's a 1 in a billionth chance that we're living in base reality. So that means there's 1 in a billionth chance that we're living in like an— in the actual real world. So that this is the real— like, like what you think to be the real world, there's a 1 in a billionth chance. And Neil deGrasse Tyson would also agree with this, and he'd say it's more of a 50/50 chance. That we're living in a real reality as opposed to simulation?
Jason24:59Moment view
Okay.
David24:59Moment view
Okay. So now I'm gonna tell you what he says. The strongest argument for us being in a simulation is— for probably being in a simulation is the following. 40 years ago, we had Pong, which was two rectangles and a dot. This is what games were. Now, 40 years later, we have photorealistic 3D simulations with millions of people playing simultaneously. And it's getting better every year. It's getting more and more advanced every year. And soon we'll have virtual reality, augmented reality. If you assume any rate of improvement at all, the games will become indistinguishable from reality. Does that make sense? Yeah. So basically, if you— that's the quote from him. So if you assume any rate of improvement, so if you go into the future 50 to 1,000 years, yeah, the, the games or whatever, or the computing systems are gonna be so high level that they're gonna be able to simulate the real world, and we're not gonna be able to differentiate from what's real and what's a computer game. So he's saying that humans have already arrived to this point in time, right? That we have already gotten to the point where everything is a simulation., and we are now just playing that simulation.
Jason26:19Moment view
But how do you explain history?
David26:22Moment view
Because in other words, that's, that's silly. You don't need to explain. That's part of the game.
Jason26:27Moment view
I—
David26:27Moment view
okay, maybe that's part of the program. He—
Jason26:30Moment view
so basically, I get it. I get what you're saying.
David26:32Moment view
In a dumber way, tough to buy. In a dumber way, he's saying, he's saying that, that the humans have already— it's already the future, and we have figured out a way where we can sit maybe in like a chamber, or maybe even, maybe we're not even bodies anymore, maybe we're just like these organisms, and we are—
Jason26:51Moment view
Are you smoking weed? Is that a joint in your hand?
David26:55Moment view
And he's saying we're now in this like world that we constructed ourselves. What do you think? I mean, like I said, I've said this before, I believe any and every theory to life, because there is no explanation for this, And there won't ever be, unless there is some grand reveal when you die. But there's no explanation for life. So that is just as reasonable to me as someone saying God created Earth.
Jason27:20Moment view
Can you imagine your grand— what would your grand reveal look like? Can you imagine a grand reveal when you die? But, like, think about it. No, but it'd be funny. It'd be interesting.
David27:29Moment view
Yeah, this is how everything was created. But, like, think about— Imagine? I feel like we talk about this shit a lot. I don't know why. But, like, think about how fucking bizarre this is. Like how we're like, we're in this like, we're in this like perfect time right now. Like there's this, there's just amount of history behind us. Yeah. And his theory is, his theory is humans civilization, like writing, as far as we know, humans started about 7,000 to 10,000 years ago. Right. Which is nothing.
Jason27:59Moment view
Nothing.
David28:00Moment view
Agreed. It's nothing compared to Dinosaurs who have been around for hundreds of millions of years, or like the Earth that's been around for hundreds of millions of years. Yeah, it's 8,000 years in, in 200 million years is absolutely nothing. So just the amount that humans have progressed, yeah, like imagine where we already may be. This is— this sounds a little confusing.
Jason28:21Moment view
I love when you argue things that I know you don't really believe, but I do believe it. But tell me exactly what's your point?
David28:28Moment view
My point is that it's, it's just interesting that I just— I, I've always, I've always thought that like it's too perfect, the situation we're living in. Like there's like— it's not perfect, but it's also not like hell on earth. Like it's also— people are running around and you know what I mean? Like, right?
Jason28:46Moment view
Like, like, I, I mean, things are pretty good for us.
David28:49Moment view
Yes, but that's, you know, but that's what I'm saying, right?
Jason28:53Moment view
There's hell on earth. There's a lot of hell on Earth.
David28:55Moment view
I know, and I don't see it, right? Do you know what I mean?
Jason28:57Moment view
I get it.
David28:57Moment view
Like, I'm not in it, and I know, and I can only base things off my reality. So, so I understand that there— that on paper there are fucking— there's hell in, in other countries.
Jason29:08Moment view
We should like go to Africa and stuff and like see shit.
David29:12Moment view
And I'm not— I'm not like saying that that doesn't exist, and we will. I'm just— I'm not saying that doesn't exist. I'm just saying that like it's pretty interesting, like where I was born, like the privilege I was born into. Right. It's like, it's like there's— we have this past and we have this like prediction of the future and now we're stuck. I don't know, it's just, it's just such a big coincidence to me. Like it's such a big coincidence. I think— and then I feel like we're at this where like I was born into the, the exact moment where there are a lot of changes happening. Like there's a lot of changes in like social stuff, like social infrastructure, and then like technology is like changing.
Jason29:45Moment view
You were you were born at the exact— I think, I think, I think you're very talented, and you were also born at like the right time too.
David29:54Moment view
Like, I was born at this, like, you were cusp of like everything fucking changing. You were like every— like the last—
Jason29:59Moment view
you were the perfect age too.
David30:02Moment view
I don't know, it's just, it's just—
Jason30:03Moment view
and I think things have worked out, and, and I think, and, and, and it's all well deserved. And I think part of you probably has a hard time like swallowing.
David30:14Moment view
Yeah, why is it happening?
Jason30:14Moment view
What you've been given. Exactly.
David30:17Moment view
Yeah.
Jason30:17Moment view
And that's why— almost not guilt.
David30:19Moment view
Is it guilt? It's not guilt. It's just like, it's just like there's a— I've had a lot of—
Jason30:24Moment view
it's a lot for you.
David30:25Moment view
I've had a lot of good things happen to me, right? You have. And like, and like, it's— it is hard to believe. It's like, it's like, how is this— how is this happening? Like, how is this— how is this my reality, right? Like, that's— it's just, it's insane because it's just like, I'm really fucking lucky.
Jason30:38Moment view
You probably can't— you probably can't process it at all. To be 22 and to have your own house.
David30:44Moment view
But at the same time, and also to be writing something like this, like, but also at the same time, in the back of my head, I'm like, I'm like, if this is, if this is like some fake fucking bullshit world that's made up just for me, like, I'm about to fucking have it really hard. Like, I'm about to experience, I'm about to experience, like, if this is a world I'm living in that's like not real and it is like a simulation, I'm about to go through fucking hell. Like, I'm about to get the worst disease Someone's gonna die in a car wreck that's really close to me. I'm about to fucking— that's how I imagine life. I imagine it being really, really amazing, and then just like as if programmers were watching me in some computer room, and they're like, okay, let's see now what happens when we take it all away. Like, I just imagine it like being like The Truman Show. Okay, so now his career's gonna crash. Right, and all his friends around him are gonna vanish., and he's gonna have to—
Jason31:41Moment view
I've had that happen to me.
David31:42Moment view
And he's gonna have to— yeah, you have it happen every year. Yeah, the programmers that are fucking with your simulation— yeah, what the fuck, guys? Are assholes. Whoever is running Jason's simulation, give him a fucking break. Yeah, seriously, go easy on me. It almost doesn't feel like reality because it just doesn't— it doesn't feel fair to anybody else.
Jason32:03Moment view
Well, you should— you should talk to somebody about it.
David32:05Moment view
I mean, I don't have— I'm just doing it for the podcast.
Jason32:07Moment view
You're like, I'm talking to you right now.
David32:09Moment view
I got 40 minutes to kill, bro. I don't have problems.
Jason32:13Moment view
I, I know Josh said that about you yesterday. We were talking about you. What did he say? I was saying I'm worried about you.
David32:22Moment view
And, um, and here's a simulation cracking down on me.
Jason32:25Moment view
Oh yeah, I'm the simulation. David, I forgot my camera. Can Can we go back to my house? Okay, go, go. I was saying that I'm worried about you right now, and he said something really interesting. He goes, "Yeah, you know, but you and I, we absorb everything. We'll be depressed for 2 days." He said, "I think David, he gets bummed out for like 5 minutes, and then he's on to his Tesla and his nice house." Sure, but how long can I keep that up? Well, that's why I'm worried about you.
David32:56Moment view
I'm like in the honeymoon stage of my life right now. Like, that's what it is. I'm like, "Oh, cool, I just bought a house." I just bought a Tesla.
Jason33:03Moment view
Right.
David33:03Moment view
But what happens when all those materialistic things fade and I'm left with nothing but a cold, cold, empty heart?
Jason33:10Moment view
You mean like when the car doesn't make you happy anymore?
David33:13Moment view
No, like a new car doesn't charge. When you're—
Jason33:15Moment view
what?
David33:15Moment view
When I run out of charge, when the battery's out. No, but yeah, like what happens when I stop being a kid, I grow up and I go, hey, this isn't cutting it for me. A nice house isn't cutting it for me anymore. Or a nice car isn't cutting it for me anymore. I mean, I still think I have really good relationships with tons of people. So where is it going to— yeah, where is my falling? Where do I lose my mind? That's what I'm fucking scared of. And I know it's coming.
Jason33:44Moment view
And I know it's coming. Probably early next year. Yeah. Yeah.
David33:48Moment view
No, I— I know, dude, I say this all the time. There is going to be a time where people are going to be like, wow. He's gone off the fucking rails. I remember when he surprised 7 of his friends with cars. He was really in his prime, and he is just— I don't— is he in Bali now? Where is he? He left, right? He does. He's not— he's not in the— he's not in the Americas anymore. No, he's gone. Yeah, that's what's gonna happen.
Jason34:12Moment view
That will suck if you—
David34:13Moment view
if you dip.
Jason34:14Moment view
I'm gonna—
David34:15Moment view
that will suck. I— yesterday I was telling Natalie, my assistant, I'm like, I can go to Italy right now. Yeah, like, I'm allowed to leave the country, I just can't come back in. I'm like, I can go to Italy, buy a boat, and live there for the next 60 years of my life on that boat. You have enough? Yeah.
Jason34:29Moment view
And just cut— No, you don't.
David34:31Moment view
Yeah, like a small boat, like not a yacht. I'm saying like a small boat, like a fisherman, and just cut fruit all day and just eat fruit and, and just be really tan with a hairy chest. Yeah, like, that could be me for the rest of my life. Yeah. And, and honestly, I think it may be in a couple years. I think that about you. Because I'm a very polar person. So if I want to be like— I either want to be super successful, or I just want to be super on the opposite of it. I need these polar— my teacher in school told me once, he goes, you're either going to end up in jail, "Or you're gonna be a very successful guy." And I'm like, "That's actually a really good way to describe me." Maybe jail's not the right place 'cause I'm terrified of it. It's a great Instagram bio. But I don't know if actually my teacher told me this or if I've adopted this from someone telling me this. I don't know if my teacher told me this or if I heard this in like a— It doesn't matter.
Jason35:33Moment view
Anyway.
David35:33Moment view
It fits you perfectly. Yeah, and I don't know. Basically what I'm trying to say is—
Jason35:39Moment view
Is I'm okay, don't worry about me. I'm fine, I'm gonna make another vlog today.
David35:43Moment view
Therapist is going to listen to this and they're gonna— I'm gonna get an email and they're gonna be like, you need to come talk to me.
Jason35:47Moment view
Oh, I'm gonna send it to mine.
David35:49Moment view
I've heard this, I've heard this from plenty of my clients and they're all in the ditch right now.
Jason35:54Moment view
Who do you listen to most in your life?
David35:56Moment view
Who do I listen to?
Jason35:57Moment view
Yeah, who, who gives you— when someone talks to you— Charles Manson.
David36:01Moment view
He's dead. Oh, okay, he still talks to me.
Jason36:07Moment view
Hey, what's up Dave?
David36:08Moment view
Great vlog, man. No, no, I'm not fucking crazy. God, I hate when I go off on these.
Jason36:14Moment view
No, no, I think it's great. I actually, I like this topic. I think the simulation thing's very interesting.
David36:18Moment view
I just think that this, this whole world is fucking bananas and it's just like crazy how we were, how we were. I don't know. My other argument is in my past life I was a very like malnourished child in like a war zone and, and this, I got re-upped to like a better life and then my next life is going to be another shitty life.
Jason36:40Moment view
Is that simulation or is that like God?
David36:42Moment view
That's just like reincarnation shit. I always think, I'm like, okay, cool, so now I have a pretty cool life. My next life, there's no fucking way it's gonna be great. It's gonna be shit. I'm gonna be born into a different time period and I'm not gonna have it my way. That's how I think. You really think about this stuff a lot. No, I don't. I don't think about it a lot, but when I'm urged to talk about it, then I'll talk about it. I don't know. So that's why I'm making the best of it now. And I'm very, very grateful for this version of this life. And I'm hoping for the best in my next one.
Jason37:13Moment view
Yeah. Hey, I want to thank you for not scaring me too badly this morning at 1:00 AM when you were standing over my bed.
David37:20Moment view
Oh, yeah. Oh, hold on. Hold on. Don't say that yet. Let's bring that up in a second. But before, let's cut to a commercial break. This commercial is brought to you by Framebridge. Just go to framebridge.com and upload your photos. We'll send your packages safely in the mail. In physical pieces. Basically, Framebridge is amazing. They make it super easy and affordable to frame your favorite things, from arts, prints, and posters to travel photos sitting on your phone. They, they literally frame anything, guys. It's so easy. You preview your item online in any frame style, choose your favorite, or get free recommendations from their talented designers, and the expert team at Framebridge will custom frame your item and deliver your finished piece directly to your door, ready to hang. Instead of the hundreds you'd pay at a framing store, their prices start at $39, and all shipping is Plus, our listeners get $15 off their first order at framebridge.com when they use my code VIEWS. That's V-I-E-W-S. Get started today, frame your photos, or send the perfect gift for weddings, birthdays, and events. Go to framebridge.com and use promo code VIEWS, and you'll save an additional 15% off your first order. Guys, literally frame anything. Framing is the best gift to give someone. If you want to give a gift to someone, frame a picture. It's amazing.
Jason38:28Moment view
It's priceless. We're doing Wyatt's room over in my house with, um, Twenty One Pilots posters.
David38:33Moment view
And all thanks to Framebridge, baby. Yeah, use promo code VIEWS. That's framebridge.com, promo code VIEWS. First of all, before we get off the simulation topic, I really want to see people tweet me about it. Like, tweet. And keep in mind, guys, when I talk about this stuff, I don't know anything about anything, so I'm just rambling out of my ass. So don't tweet me and say I'm an idiot because I already know tweet me your opinions on life, because I want to know. I love, I love all these theories. Like, if you think that, that we, we all come from plants, I want to hear it, because I find that so interesting. Because literally, and there's any possibility to how, like, Earth came about, you know what I mean? Like, you can't, you cannot tell me 100% certain there is a God and he created everything. That's just not true. You can't do that. And you 100% can't tell me that science created all of it and we evolved from apes. I don't believe any of it I've not, I've not seen it. And I'll tell you what is true.
Jason39:25Moment view
What's true? After you woke me last night, I had a Häagen-Dazs bar and an M&M ice cream— M&M cookie ice cream sandwich.
David39:31Moment view
Yeah. So right now it's, it's 10:40 in the morning, and we were supposed to do a podcast last night after the vlog. I drove over to Jason.
Jason39:38Moment view
I want to thank you for your kindness, David.
David39:40Moment view
It was 1 AM.
Jason39:40Moment view
I want to thank you for your kindness.
David39:43Moment view
Yeah, listen, it was 1 AM.
Jason39:44Moment view
Appreciate it, guys. Listen, I broke into— David is a great guy. And he's very kind. He showed me kindness last night.
David39:51Moment view
Yeah, so I broke into Jason's house at 1 AM, 'cause the door was locked, and I got—
Jason39:57Moment view
I don't know how you got in the fucking house.
David39:58Moment view
Yeah, I don't know either. And I got to his room and I started knocking on his door, in his bedroom, and he wasn't answering, so I went inside. I think he was naked. Were you naked? Yeah, probably. Yeah, Jason was naked. Um, and that's not a great visual. Yeah, so imagine Jason's like— Jason's naked, so I didn't want to like go any close to him, so I started shaking his foot like a lot. And I was like, Jason, Jason, Jason! And he was snoring and I thought he was pulling a prank on me. And so I was like, Jason, Jason, it's David, we gotta do the podcast! And this was after like I fucking grabbed his foot and I was going up and down with it. I was basically jerking off. I don't remember that, but you were really— I was standing over you for for a solid 45 seconds, really shaking your leg. And like, that's not good. Yeah, literally. I even said, I'm like, Jason, I could stab you in the heart right now. I can kill both you and Trisha right now if I wanted to. And nothing. I thought you would laugh because I thought you were fucking with me, but you weren't. Um, so yeah. And then, and then I had Chinese food, and then I got a little closer to you, and I stood over you, and I was like, Jason. But I didn't. And you freaked out the first second. You were like, what? What are you doing here? 'Cause you thought I was gonna like shoot you with a paintball gun or something, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you were scared. And then I'm like, "Oh God, he's so fucking out of it. I'll just— let's just do this in the morning." And then I left.
Jason41:18Moment view
Yeah, that was awesome. I was so glad. Thank you so much.
David41:22Moment view
Yeah, and then we had to do it in the morning when mornings aren't my thing. As you can see, I just spent 25 minutes talking about how my world's gonna come crashing to an end because it's too great right now. But, um, but yeah, no, but please definitely send me— definitely send me your opinions and stuff on, on how Earth works and the creation of us.
Jason41:44Moment view
Yeah, and we're working on maybe some more live shows.
David41:46Moment view
And let me know if we should avoid these topics or if you guys find these interesting. I liked it. Yeah, I find it interesting. Okay, well, we'll see you guys later. This has been A Viewz Podcast. My name's Jeff. See you later. Bye.