Who's the Real David Dobrik

What's up guys, welcome back to Views. We have a very special guest here right now, currently, manager Jack Reed, the man who made everyone in this room millions of dollars and made millions more for himself. Jack. Yeah. Welcome.

Hello, everyone. I'm really, really delighted. Really, really happy to be here. This room's incredible. You've done a lot with the place, honestly.

Jack's got such a nice announcer voice.

I get that sometimes.

I think you're playing it up, dude.

He's loving every minute of this.

Let's go back to the origins. How did we meet? Jack was the first person to ever approach me about managing me. So like, it wasn't even qualifications that I chose Jack. Jack chose me when I was fresh in LA.

You could barely speak English.

I could barely speak English.

And I just went right with Jack and I fell into his arms. Where did you first find me?

It was Vine. So you were big on Vine and then I reached out to you with like just a Gmail account.

Wow.

Yeah. And you had a Gmail too, right on your profile. Just, I think it was, you know, David, David, David, Chicago.

What did you see?

Pizza, pizza, pizza.

Gmail.com.

But yeah, that was it.

What did you see in him? Him?

Yeah, it was, uh, I don't know. I mean, to be honest, it was just like, obviously, to be honest, I sent out 1,000 emails.

Kevin Dallas didn't write me back.

I thought, I thought you were funny. I thought you were good. And then you're obviously— your following was growing. And then it kind of just worked out where like I had reached out and then you were, I guess, coming to LA like 3 weeks later.

Was this the first time I was ever coming to LA?

We spoke once on the phone, then you were like, I'm actually getting into my car and I'm driving to LA. And I was like, this kid sounds crazy. Like, what is he talking about?

Wow, this is I was filming my first ever YouTube video where I come to LA in the Toyota Corolla.

I guess, yeah, I guess you hadn't really started the channel yet, but like—

No, no, this was, this was like 2, 3 years before I started the vlog. Yeah, I filmed like one video where it was a road trip to LA.

No, like, you'll love this. Remember where, um, Cafe Primo was? Yeah, uh, the Equinox West Hollywood. Yeah, it was at the bottom of there. So David was like, yeah, I'm gonna be in town. And then we were texting and I said, why don't you, you know, come by Cafe Primo? And David came and I was with my friend Ben. Yes, dude, remember this?

Yeah, of course. He's so handsome.

Yeah. The guy who looks like Adrian Grenier. And David came and I remember you had like this kind of beaten up, stained kind of like jean jacket. Nice.

Yeah.

And your hair was everywhere. And then yeah, we just, we met there and you were like, dude, I'm, I just moved here. My car is illegally parked or something. You were like, I don't know if I'm going to get a ticket. And you had the Corolla.

Yeah.

And then you, I don't know, you were looking for a place. I think you had found a place in Hollywood.

Do you remember like what I told you like my goals were at the time?

No, you didn't have a ton. There wasn't like a, you know, no, there wasn't some big plan, but No, you were just like, I moved out here, I'm going to wing this. And like, my parents think I'm a little crazy. And I was like, yeah, you look crazy.

Damn, that's crazy. So you came in early.

Yeah.

You bought stock.

Yeah, I bought Meta very early.

Damn, right on.

The best is when you would call Jack with a deal.

You would call David or call—

If you would call me.

That was so fun. And Brandon and I would always make fun of it. We'd be like, Jason Nash. Already, you know, like, oh, this is— You're like, it's like Christmas morning.

It's like a drug.

Yeah, it's like a drug. He's like, Jason.

Oh yeah.

You know, just that tone. You're already in. You're like, oh my God, fuck, yes, yes. It's like Santa Claus.

Just hearing Jack's voice about a brand deal.

He'd go, all right. He goes, I wasn't able to get exactly what you wanted, but he goes, 3 IG posts. 3 posts, picture. No big deal. 3 pictures. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 3 pictures.

Oh yeah, I totally remember this.

Picture of you and Wyatt, picture of you and Charlie.

Yeah.

11 grand. And then he go, you'd do that, right? You'd do that? 11 grand?

Listen, listen.

It's a crack dealer.

It's not what David's making, but hey, I mean, it's 11 grand. It's 11 grand.

It's not what David's making.

But it is.

11 grand is incredible.

Right? And we used to have those conversations all the time because we'd be on Earth. We'd be like, that was what I loved about you. It'd be like you understood, like, 11 grand is gonna—

yeah, like, let's pay off the American Express bill. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, that's what he'd always say. He'd be like, maybe get Natalie a nice dinner. Oh my God. And then I'd be like, yeah, I'll take it, I'll take the deal. And he'll be like, good, because I think this is a good idea, because imagine what you could do with money. You could take a nice little vacation. And then he'd keep going, listing things that I could do with the money when I've already said yes. He loved it.

He would do that, right?

He would bathe in like, in just like the possibility of where you would spend this brand deal money.

By the way, this is a funny example. It was like, I forget what the brand was. You were big on Twitter and like a random deal came in last minute and they wanted 2 tweets and it was for $45,000.

Whoa.

I remember thinking, I was like, whoa. Hey, now, for what brand? I do kind of remember it was like a TV network. I don't know.

$45,000.

But maybe. Did I say no?

No, you said yes. You did it. Oh, really?

Wait, what did he pass on that you won? Bang your head against the wall.

I mean, there were a couple.

It was bad. I would pass on Twitter deals.

Yeah, like $22K for like a video tweet. He's like, no, I can't do that. I can't do it.

I could not touch Twitter. I'm surprised you're saying I took 2 tweets.

It was because it was like a quick repost. I remember this well.

It was a retweet.

And then you had one tweet by you and they were like, we'll do it for $45K. I'm like, it's a BMW. Like, what are we doing?

No, that's insane, Jack.

Like, right when you think about that, it really is crazy. It was, it was, I remember that well. I was like, oh my gosh, like, that's a lot of money. Yeah, you know, damn. Yeah, but I was on hotels.com.

I was so precious about my Twitter. Looking back at it, I'm like, for fucking what? What was I doing? Yeah, yeah, but like, like, Twitter was my most precious platform easily, and I wouldn't let anything come on, any brand deals or anything. I'd be like, this is just, this is just me. And then, yeah, yeah, you were telling me some stories of meetings that we've had. Like, you have— I, like, I was telling Natalie, like, you have such interesting perspective on things because, like, you'll bring up shit and I don't remember it at all. You were bringing up the Quibi thing.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So, and Jason, you can chime in here too. Remember, like, I don't know what year it was, it was before COVID but Quibi, like Katzenberg had this company of like, I don't know how many it was, let's say 200 people or something.

It was like Netflix but for quicker clips and mobile.

It was everything was like short form content.

Big stars were attached to it. They all had shows. Yeah, right.

Like I'm trying to think some of them were maybe, I don't know, like a Will Smith or they had big people though.

Yeah, they were, dude, they were shelling out like crazy money.

Like Reese Witherspoon. I don't know. They had big people. And so David was doing his thing and then he got, I think his agent or someone set that meeting and we went in. I remember you were late. You were kind of disheveled. You weren't like—

No, I don't show up late to meetings, Jack. There's no way. I'm pretty good at being on time.

Is he not?

Yeah, pretty good.

Okay.

You were on time.

Now, maybe.

Yeah, you were right on time. And so there's this meeting and it's just a general.. And like, I remember you kept asking, you literally, you were pretty smart. You're like, well, what are we doing here? You know, am I pitching a show, blah, blah. And they were like, no, they just know you have a big following on YouTube, blah, blah. And so we went in there and, you know, I forgot her name, but she came in there and she gives like some big presentation, like you're saying, all these stars that they have attached to these projects they're shooting. I know they're gonna have all this hours, hours of content. And then she's like, so yeah, any questions for me? And you can hear a pin drop. Like, we were like, who's gonna talk? Like, I don't know. It's, it was cool. And then David literally goes, David literally goes, I swear he said this. He goes, has anyone ever like mentioned to you that the name's terrible? Like dead, dead serious. And she was, and she kind of giggles. She's like, yeah, we've heard some rumblings. And you're like, David goes, I think you should change it. Oh my God, they have this huge company.

No, you didn't.

Well, I, okay, I don't know if I put it that way. It was pretty, you were pretty like, you're being funny, you're being funny about it. I didn't go like Social Network about it, like Drop.

No, no, no, no, no, no. You were just like, it's goofy.

It's not. Yeah, well, cuz the quibi stood. Stood for quick bites. And I'm like, none of that even makes sense. Like even when you elongate it. I'm like, this isn't 1999. So like that didn't make sense to me. So. Yes. But there were good sports about it.

They were. And then we kind of like, I mean it was a fine meeting. It didn't last that long.

Yeah.

It was just a general meeting. It's like, yeah, if you guys have money, we'll participate, we'll do something.

And then, and then it was. Dave and I were talking the other day, because I think why he brought it up was that on the way out, we're leaving the meeting and they're like, yeah, let us know if you need anything. They gave us merch. And then David literally is with the elevator's about to open. He goes, Jack, he looks around, he goes, I don't know what any of these people do here. And sure enough, the company, like whatever it was, 18 months later was done.

Yeah, it was a short-lived company.

Why did it go away?

I guess what, the funding was out or they, I don't know, they ran out of money.

They didn't set the most heavily funded startup And the entertainment world.

I remember no one signed up. I think that's what I remember.

It launched and it didn't do well. Pretty much what happened. It's just people didn't really buy into the quick.

But it was like a crazy amount of money that they raised.

Yeah.

Well, you invested hundreds of millions.

I did. Yes.

Oh, wow. You don't even know. I don't know.

No, you definitely didn't invest.

Remember we went to a Netflix meeting once.

Yeah, we were talking about that too.

And the guy who was deciding used to work for my ex-wife. Yes. So he went to the Netflix meeting. I thought it went well. It did. And then he found out that they were not buying it. Right. He couldn't— David could not believe that Netflix was not buying what he pitched. Totally. And what he pitched was great.

It was actually, to be honest, to be fair, it was a good meeting where even, you know, I was like praying when we left that room.

Like, I was like, you know, we shot for that. Then right after that, like, for a few days, he would be like, you did something. He's like, Jason, did you do something to this guy? Were you rude? Were you rude to this guy? I can't figure out for the life of me why they wouldn't buy this fucking show. Jay, you fucking blew this. I know this is your fault. I swear to God, you fucking pinned it on me.

No, no, no, I didn't. I was asking, I was like, did something happen? Because they didn't give us an answer for why. They would never give us an answer for why.

True, I remember this.

Everyone at Netflix at least in the meeting, seemed to like it, but there was one guy who was making the decision who just seemed to have something weird. An axe to grind, yeah. Like some kind of bone with one of us, and I was like, what the fuck is it? And he used to be Jason's ex-wife's assistant. Right. So I'm like, Jay, did something happen in the house? And the second I said that— It was a little suspicious. Yeah, that's obviously where my head goes right away. The second I said that, Jay, just like, just how he did now, he fired up.

He's like, what?

You're saying I have anything to do?

What was like another memorable like deal or like event or occurrence or something?

So many memories.

Well, the, the, this is, we'll start with this. This is really random. No one, like, have you ever talked about how you made a perfume?

Oh yeah.

Yeah.

What do you mean?

Yeah.

Wait, why are you laughing?

I really like that smell.

This was Jack behind every, like, everything we do.

He'd be like, because the reason, the reason why I started, the reason why I started this is that We were in New York for Fallon and you had a crazy day. I don't know if you remember this. We had a sprinter in New York. And so it was like you and Megan, the publicist, and a bunch of people. And so we went to this perfume factory and you kind of were tired and a little hungover. And then you brought friends.

Remember this?

Yeah.

When we went to go smell the perfume.

Their factory. You tested every one of them. Yeah. So that was interesting.

But what did you think when he wanted to make a perfume?

That's what I'm kind of— I kind of was like, what are we doing? Well, because Natalie, he pushed it. You said, I want to do a perfume.

Yeah.

No one was like, hey David, like, we really think you need to make a perfume. You were the one that were like, hey, I really want to do it, it's going to be fun. We were like, okay.

Like, well, it's because I saw the Natalie Portman commercial for Dior. Yes, that is. And I wanted to make a perfume commercial.

So he built an entire company.

So he assembled a crew of 25 and built a perfume.

But anyway, I mean, that's how Doughbrik started. We were just hungry.

True.

But did you— we were stuck with it.

No, no, no.

But we went to the perfume, I guess, testing, and it was fun. And then after that, we all got on, I guess, the Sprinter, and then we went to Sea Geek. So it was like this day.

Oh my gosh. Yeah.

So, and you kind of like, you kind of were just honestly, you were kind of out of it and tired and you were like there, but you're like, we're next. Like, I don't really care.

And then wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. And we also don't— wait, wait, wait.

And you were wearing, he was wearing like a dumb fuck, like this, like Nike. Sherpa, like, stupid jacket.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You look terrible.

Yeah.

Like, like, like, hair—

we're rarely in New York, so, like, so, yes, we were doing, like, a lot of— we're just knocking all the media, like, like, meeting with Sea Geek because we never meet with them.

And you went out. I don't know what you did the night before. I don't remember. But you, you just— you were fine. You were tired. And we were, we were like— I was like, okay, so we're going to the Sea Geek thing. I think you were wearing, like, baggy pants and slippers too. Like, you look terrible. Like, I remember thinking, like, there's no way they're going to be impressed with what Dave looks like. But we went to the meeting and Ian was there and he walked us in. I remember he was funny. He was like, yeah, like, you know, just be corporate or whatever. Just like, you know, like just be cool, cool. And you're like, yeah, yeah. And I guess the CEO, he came in and he was talking to you and you kind of like, you did lead it. You were kind of like, look, dude, like I love you guys, but I've done X, Y, and Z. And then he was like, yeah, we'll figure something out. We'll figure something out. And then David was like, no, no, no. Like, I really— let's talk equity.

Just laid it on him right there.

Right.

And he was kind of like, yeah, yeah. You kind of like laughed it off. And then you were like really pushy in like a really annoying way. And so the guy was like, yeah, yeah, we'll figure it out. And then kind of like that was, you know, he kind of bounced and Ian came in and then I don't know, it didn't really happen. But I just remember thinking David just truly doesn't give a fuck.

That was a stab at equity.

Yeah.

I think it was that you actually I think he did pretty well. Like, you were pretty bullish about it.

That was his first time, like, shooting his shot in that regard too, of being like, I feel like this is what I deserve.

I mean, yeah.

I mean, the only, like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You also laid down on the floor at one point. I don't know why.

At Seeki?

Yeah, waiting for the CEO.

Well, I also love Ian from Seeki, so I think he made me feel at home. So maybe that could have been it. But yeah, I would have loved a little bit of equity at Seeki because there would be other people from other companies that would come up to us.

That's why you were talking about this.

Yeah. And like other companies would be like, you do realize like how much you've done for Seekik. I hope you have equity. And I'm like, what? I'd be like, what are you talking about? And they'd be like, oh, like they don't tell you? I'm like, no, actually they don't tell me. What are we doing for Seekik?

Because the CEO gave me a little equity. And so I was like, that's fine.

Yeah, that would make sense. Zachary Lockes earned millions.

He's like, we never got it.

That's really funny. Yeah, well, next time we know.

We do know next time.

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1-8.

Ooh. Yeah, there's like a—

Jack took Jack's money. No, I don't like to talk about it.

No, it was, it was, uh, Why am I blanking now?

Jack doesn't want to say what it is because I'm going to go back and say I only got paid half that.

No, no, no.

It was like one too. I mean, that's not the biggest one. It was that credit card company.

Yes.

Yes. And that was like a year. You hated it because there's a lot of integrations and stories and shit. But it was a 7-figure thing.

Damn, that's crazy.

I remember that.

It's just so funny too. And then once Jack is done— oh, and I used to go do stand-up. I'd be so miserable. And, uh, and Jack, to his credit, he would call me on like a Saturday and he'd be like, how you doing, bud? Are you all right? I'm gonna fucking kill myself, Jack. I'm like, I'm in the middle of nowhere. But that— I think that's a funny aspect to it too. It's like you brokered the deal and then David's left with fucking 19 posts.

Oh, that is really funny. That is really funny.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You gotta make the content. Yeah, and make it good.

Like, we'd be going to the college shows or whatever, and Jack would be back in LA. Jack loves his vacations, loves his tennis, loves Santa Barbara. Yeah, loves Italy, or what, I don't know, wherever he goes. But oh, and then he'll call you from there when you're like in the fucking like ghost town college town, like there for two nights because flights couldn't work out, was connecting. How'd the show go? Jack's collecting his $20,000 check.

You're in Rhode Island.

How'd it go? The Wire just hit.

It looks good.

The show looked great from your post.

Thanks, Jack.

Honestly, I was asleep at the airport. The flight wouldn't connect.

I'm at a trap house in Van Nuys getting shot with a paintball gun.

Yeah, that is also funny. Jack was in his office. Oh, you also— also, when Natalie first started working for me, yeah, she had to tell her college that she was working.

I technically worked at Jack's company. Yeah, yeah, that's how I was able to move out here.

We like took fake pictures of her working at everything.

Do you remember that?

When I came into the office, yeah, I think like a call with like Gary or whoever it was, you know, somebody from her college office.

Yeah, now he's working really hard.

What were the pictures like? Were you behind a desk or—

Yeah, he had like a conference room, like a communal conference room, and it was literally Jack over my shoulder just like pointing at things on my laptop.

You know, the guy got— he's like, there's no way.

In the background there's one of those pillows of Jack's face, just like, it's just like such a Jack to show the college that you were working.

Well, but like, you were going back to the stand-up, I was thinking about, uh The View store. It was funny he was mentioning Stamos because I don't know why I thought about this. When you did the Chicago show, which was amazing, it was like 3,600 people, which I still think is one of the coolest things you guys have done. Stamos was there. But why was he there? What was the story behind it?

He had something with the Beach Boys that weekend.

Just coincidentally? Yeah. Like, do you remember that night at all? Of course.

And Stamos is all, I remember it.

I've never seen David's mom light up.

I was just going to say, I'm sorry. It made me feel so— no, no, no. Maybe I'm glad someone else saw it because it made me feel so weird. Wait. Seeing my mom that excited about a man.

She was on fire.

Really.

It's like, the best way.

After the show or before the show.

I think this was before she got some. A few moments with him. And, you know, of course, John is so nice and.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like, boarded on and flirty. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Then they left for 10 minutes. I have no idea where they went.

And then came Toby.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. But yeah, yeah, yeah. That is. That. That. That is a big memory I have is John Stamos and my mom. I'll never forget that.

Well, it was just crazy, too, as I in the green room. There must have been— it felt like 100 people down there. Yes, it was so stressful.

And those podcast shows, we would all—

dude, right?

It's fucking crazy we were getting paid for those things because like they were put together last fucking minute.

Like, what was the deal?

Was that—

I forget.

I wonder.

My man, no, they weren't. What are you on, fucking meth?

We would repeat the same stories at each different city.

No, no, dude, what are you talking about? Jay, we'd bring like Zane Heath and like random people from our friend group and we'd literally sit everyone in the green room room, and, and we'd sit him down in the green room and be like, okay, who has a fun story? And like, literally last second, we would write like on like a white piece of paper of like what stories we were gonna tell. It was very last minute. It was fucking hell. Like, but like in a really fun way, because it was just like, we never—

it was, it was a weird way. You said this once, it was— I mean, obviously you don't compare, but it was like Saturday Night Live in a way. You don't really know what's gonna happen, which was cool. It was cool.

It just, it feels bizarre that there was no criteria to rent out the Chicago theater. No, like you didn't have to show the Chicago theater like, here's run of show because we didn't have the run of show. No fucking Stamos pulled up and we're like, Stamos, you got a fun story. And you—

and I remember to give you credit, like, it was chaotic and people like, what are we doing? Peck was there, right? Peck was there too. So first, like, he flew in. I don't know.

Remember that either? Chicago show, there was a lot of people.

Yeah. Like Peck, Stamos, like they were all there. But you and Jason, like, commanded everyone and you went out there and did it. And I just remember after, like, like we all went back to the Langham and there was this, like, amazing feeling of, like, bliss where I was like, that was, that was special. That was cool that you guys did that.

Yeah.

Do you think your mom people at the bar and people were like, holy shit. Like, it was like 37, whatever, 3,600 people. Yeah.

I mean, the Chicago theater with the big Chicago letters is like so fucking great.

Jack and I would have the best conversations about you, Dave.

Why?

The best. We would be just laughing, just dying at the things he wouldn't do.

Yeah.

Like what? Like if you didn't want to do the podcast and—

Yeah. Would you guys like worry together that I would stop doing stuff? Like, would that be a conversation?

It was just frustrating.

I wasn't worried that you would stop. I mean, he'd be like, all he's got to do is just sit and press record, sit and talk to you for 45 minutes. And I'm like, I said, is it me? I'm like, am I a fucking problem? Like, does he hate me that much?

Do I stink?

Yeah, yeah. I'm like, am I that boring? And we would just laugh.

But some of the, like, the Chicago show, like, I mean, all the live stuff you guys did was like, uh, I don't know, there were like moments there where like when you guys did those like meet and greets after, like it was, it was special in the sense of like, like you teared up a couple times. I don't know if you remember, because like you'd have families though that would be like, you're like, oh yeah, like we drove 6 and a half hours.

Yeah, we had no reason to be at a theater. Like we had no reason to be selling tickets at a Chicago theater. So it was a great— yeah, it's crazy.

But yes, I know I'm saying like obviously the vlog was on top of the world and these kids were like, we want to get close to David and the crew and and we want to see, like, see these guys in person. So it was like, think about that. They drove 6.5 hours, they're driving 6.5 hours back. So these people were spending a day out of their life to come see you guys. And people would leave, like, obviously handwritten notes and gifts and, like, Chipotle. Yeah, yeah, it was just amazing.

Or like a, like a, a father-daughter. Yeah, it was always, like, really touching. It's like, oh, that's so cool. Like, you both listen to the show.

Yeah, yeah, that was really cool.

It was really sweet.

It was. Remember, we do the meet and greets Best fans. I remember taking emergency right after all of it. I just remember shaking up. I would get so sick after that.

Yeah, 3 days later you would be fine.

I don't know how artists do it. I don't know how artists do that nonstop. You meet 100 people, you're definitely sick. No questions asked. I don't know why I didn't want to do the pod. Obviously it wasn't you, but it's just like, I also just love repeating. If you know me in real life, what I enjoy talking about are the same 300 things. I just repeat the same shit over and over again because I genuinely get so much joy from it. I'll talk about high school and I'll talk about the same things in high school. I'll talk about like this house and I'll talk about the angles of the house and how I'm looking at the house and like the pickleball court. I'll talk about the same thing over and over again because it genuinely brings me so much joy and I just need to get it off my chest. And yes, I only— I have to press record and speak for 45 minutes, but for some reason I always just want to talk about the same things.

And so you feel like you're going to be repeating yourself?

Yeah, I just felt like I said a lot of the things that were fresh at the time and I don't know if I was burnt out or whatever it was. The thing that really killed me on the pod, why I stopped doing it for sure, Now that I've thought about it for another 3 minutes, is when we were editing it. That's why now when we do the pod, I tell Jason, I'm like, I don't want to listen to the pod. I don't like— just you and Natalie take care of it, right? And I don't want to— I don't want to hear it. It's because I started to get so into it.

Yeah.

Where I was editing like the vlog.

Yeah.

And I wanted like every little thing, like every little word.

But you know, that's not what a podcast is.

I don't care what that—

I know.

I always say that and it makes no sense to me.

It's a fundamental difference that we have. But Jack, tell them like Do you listen to podcasts?

What does that mean?

I do. But Jason just sort of saying you don't need to hang on every word. It's kind of like—

I understand.

The best podcasts are the ones that are like—

I hate those podcasts. I fucking hate podcasts.

And you don't listen to podcasts either, Nat, right?

No, I do.

You do? Yeah.

I really like Smartlist. I mean, I listen to a couple others, but I like Smartlist.

Smartlist is great.

Yeah. I don't know. We don't do it anymore. I think now it's more free-flowing. But towards the end of when we were doing the podcast before, I wanted every word to have like some— like, I just want everything leading to the next thing, like the vlog. And I enjoy that. I wish I just had the energy to like edit all the podcasts and make it that tight.

Yeah, I wish you would like open up more on the podcast. Why the fuck do people keep saying that shit? Because that's interesting.

Right.

I'd love to open up. What do you want me to say?

Yeah, you're comfortable.

You kind of want me to say— how about this? Every time I've opened up to you, just fucking spill all the beans here and say it. Because like, what do I say here? On the pod where I'm not opening up?

I don't think you're the most like, uh, like emotionally in touch with your own emotions.

Yeah, yeah.

So it's hard for you to like really open up even though you think—

Oh, so it's not like— No, no, okay, that's fine. That's if that's just like me as a person in general, I can't open up. But if you're saying I'm like holding back from opening up on the pod, that's where I get confused.

No, I don't think you're like consciously holding back. I just think that you're not tapping into like what a deeper emotion is or like—

But like, I just can't really— I can't really get there. I just have no idea.

Well, everything ends up just like, yeah, well, I, I already know, so whatever.

That impression, it's like a dipshit. Yeah, it's like, okay, above the fan, David. I mean, you're saying this podcast to the owner.

Hold on, Alex just texted me. It's an emergency. Oh, he said, hello, buy this, trust me, best investment you'll ever make. You have 6 minutes. And I didn't respond because we were just talking. He goes sad. It's the Cars Disney Pixar VHS Holy Grail Disney Movie Club rare new seal.

This is what Alex is like, a crypto or something.

This is What did he text me about? Fuck, I feel really bad I missed it because to get a text from Alex Ernst is rare.

He just got engaged, right?

He just got engaged today.

What a fucking amazing thing. Do you FaceTime him?

You don't have a phone. You can't FaceTime his phone.

I'm not sure what that means.

He has like a flip phone.

Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, Alex Ernst only does flip phones. Sorry, you were talking to me about opening up and here I go.

Yeah, that's what you did.

I diverted.

You diverted to cars and Disney and Alex Ernst.

Instead. Wait, what? Oh yeah, yeah, no, I kind of heard what you were saying. You're just saying that like I know what my issue is.

Yeah, you're just like, yeah, I know it. You say— you like verbalize it, but just like, just because you're saying it doesn't mean like it means anything. I don't know how to—

all right, so say something and I'll respond emotionally.

I'd love for you to open up about your childhood, whatever you went through.

What do you mean my child, what I went through?

Yeah, I don't know.

What do you think I went through?

I don't know, just if you had anything that you didn't like, or why are you the way that you are? I haven't.

The dumbest question I've ever gotten, it pisses me off so much. And maybe, maybe I, maybe I haven't grown into this question yet. Do you know what it is? It's when someone— who's the real David Dobrik? I fucking hate that question. By the way, that's going to be the title of this podcast.

I fucking hate that question. I bet you hate that question. I go— because you don't know.

I— yeah, and if I don't know, stop fucking asking me.

I don't know. Who asks you that? Like an interviewer or like a person on a party?

Like, yeah, people that like want to do something like, want to know about social media stars, like, you see this, you see all this online, but who's the real them? I don't fucking know. I probably talk about jerking off a little bit more than I would, like, online. But like, I genuinely don't know how to answer that. Like, what is— what is— am I— sorry, and I get so caught up on this question because it makes me so frustrated, but it's like, when am I gonna learn? Like, who's the real J—

well, actually, you know what, I'm gonna— to be fair, when I was your age, I couldn't answer it either.

Okay, but how am I gonna answer it later? Because Because that is—

Okay, ask me, who's the real Jason Nash?

Timeout. It's different. You're going through shit. You're like a different guy.

What do you mean? You're going through shit too.

Yeah, but I can't answer that question because I feel like I'm not at that deeper level yet. Does that make sense? Like, it doesn't exist, so therefore the answer is this is me currently.

But you must have a deeper level that you just don't— like, your true—

But like, I'm sorry, but what's the answer to it? Like, a guy who's very curious about the world? And like, what could the answer possibly fucking be? I can answer it.

David Dobrik. Ask me, I'll be David Dobrik.

Okay, David, David, you post on social media constantly. Snapchat stories, Instagram posts, YouTube Reels, YouTube vlogs, over 700 videos. You put all of your life online. Who's the real David Dobrik?

The real David Dobrik is just somebody who loves having their friends around, loves making content, and loves, uh, doing stuff so my friends can have fun and I can have fun.

But who is the real David Dobrik, because that's really—

that's really me.

That's who I am. No, I don't believe it. That's—

no one said that to you.

Oh, people have said that to him.

Yes, they have. That's how I answer everything, and I literally— my mind cannot fucking wrap itself. I cannot. It makes me so frustrated because I'm like, I don't know what I'm not giving you. I'll say fucking anything. Just tell me what to tell you so I could tell you the correct words. I'll say— I'll say the fuck— I'll say I'm a fucker. Pathetic loser little bitch. I'll say anything, but what is the correct answer? Because what I think it is, apparently it's not enough for you. Do you know?

I think, I think the whole like basis of that question is just people like, there is this like, what you put out online is like so positive and like so, I love everybody and my friends and I have money and I give back and we have a great time. Yeah, yeah, it's like Willy Wonka shit. And like that is so close to that. No, it is for sure.

For sure. It's like, I was last night, I was praying, and here's the real me, I pray. Last night I was praying and I was telling God, like we were on the phone, I was like, listen, I feel like I'm like kind of all out of requests because I feel like you've answered almost everything. Like, I feel like I've literally gotten everything I've ever wanted in my life because, like, you know, I'll pray and I'll be like, it'd be nice to find a girlfriend. And I'll be like, but I'll be like, at your own pace, like whenever you think it's right for me to find a significant person. I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to—

Yeah.

Wow. But like, but I also said to him, I was like, I said to him, I was like, I feel like I've gotten literally everything I could ask for. Sure. I always say this. There was this moment where there were shooting stars across my Skokie apartment when I lived in Skokie, Illinois. My parents woke me up and I got to make 3 wishes on these shooting stars. And I made 3 different wishes. And it was to be an actor, to have money, and to be a professional tennis player. And one can't really happen when the other happens. And everything has really, really happened. Exactly the way I've wanted it to happen. So I'm so confused as to, I don't know, do shitty things happen? Fuck yeah. Have there been like shitty times? Yes. But bro, I have made millions of dollars literally fucking hanging out with my friends. It's very hard to be like, this was depressing. It's just really hard. Even the worst, worst fucking days don't hold a fucking like light to the best days. Yeah, my best days are fucking insane. And I'm here in my movie theater room room with 3 of my hometown friends in a fucking $10 million house in LA. I cannot wrap my head around it. So when someone goes, what's the real David Dobrik? The real David Dobrik is having a fucking blast.

There's your answer.

And I'm sorry if that's all I show because that really is 95% of my life. And are there things that are like horrible and really sad and really bad? For sure. But I can't look at those because I am so happy with everything else I have.

Have.

So like, that's why that question is so beyond fucking frustrating, right? Because I don't know what somebody wants from me for that. Okay, that's it.

Well, that was really good.

Natalie hit it on the head. It's like, it's what appears on social media they want to know. Yeah, like, I think he's not that happy about the squirt gun all the time. He can't possibly be 24 hours a day happy about the squirt gun. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's—

squirt gun, I wasn't that happy.

You're excited, you get so much joy in your eyes.

Squirt gun, like, come on. But I got a I got two toy cars to turn into a unicorn when they collide, and that I was happy about.

Very happy.

And I've ordered a Gatling gun squirt gun that I'm also— it's like, it's like a big machine gun squirt gun that's coming in like a week, so I'm going to be happy about that too. Yes, like, do I try food sometimes and am I a little more excited about the food than the food deserves? Yeah, but that's because I know there's cooks behind and they're going to be watching and they're going to be like, I made that fucking Caesar wrap. So like, I'm not going to be an asshole to the wrap, but Like, but yeah, I don't know.

Would you make a vlog for In-N-Out if you could have it for the rest of your life? Just one vlog. You have to just go and hang out with your friends. Guys, In-N-Out. And then you can go any day, anytime.

No, no, no, no. What the fuck?

By the way, going back to—

You betrayed. No, I wouldn't. If you said—

For a Lamborghini? I mean, for a new Ferrari?

A vlog? Yeah. No. If you said, could I spawn an In-N-Out Burger in my hand for the rest of my life wherever I am and as many In-N-Out Burgers? Yes, I would.

But what if you're the only person that had this In-N-Out card?

Are you hinting at something? There's an In-N-Out card.

He's trying to pitch something right now.

You do that, right?

You do that, right?

Damn, you fucking sleazy fuck. You're trying to pitch a brand deal here on the pod.

No, because I feel like you would do it. I feel like if you met with an In-N-Out CMO and then they were like, you can do whatever you want.

The problem is the In-N-Out line, right? So it's like, I'm not excited to go to In-N-Out ever. Going to In-N-Out.

You just want it delivered.

Yeah, it's a 40-minute job. Got it.

So you just have junk.

Go. Yeah, my problem is not that I'm paying $3 for the burger. My problem is I'm paying with an hour in the line. That's, that's the biggest thing. So if the card lets me skip the line, fuck yeah, I'm making that vlog anyway. Yeah, I don't know the real me. I hope to find out soon. Maybe I'll get hit by a fucking car. Well, the real me's an amputee now.

Oh, come on.

I think, I think also the people that are asking those types of questions, it's like misery loves company, right? They're like, there's got to be something bad in your— you know, like there's got to be something.

But like, yeah, obviously like I'm fucking sad sad.

Yeah, sometimes.

Yeah, but like, it's really, really hard to be sad.

When was the last time you were sad?

Um, last time I was sad?

Yeah.

Fuck, it was just recent. I don't remember what it was, but all my sadness is baked into like, like the joy of not being able to believe what is everything.

When's the last time you cried?

Last time I cried? Probably like 2 nights ago. Oh, okay.

I forget you cry all the time.

I cry like 2 or 3 times a week.

Got every answer.

Has got— well, he's never like— I've never heard him.

Is anything like, like a door moved or something when you're talking to him?

Or no, but I have the Streamy Award like tumbles on the shelf. No, I stopped doing that.

Just show me a sign if there's a girlfriend out there for me.

No, yesterday was one of my first days where I was like, fuck, I feel bad praying.

You're guilty praying? Like, well, you've already gotten so much.

I've— yeah, I've actually chilled on asking for things. I'm trying to now like just— I'm trying to just thank That's for me.

See if God can do something for me.

Okay, yeah, yeah.

Hey, can you help? Yeah, pray for me tonight.

Yeah, man, start praying for you. Earthquake hits my house, lightning strikes, neighborhood lights on fire.

Jason's trying to pay his mortgage.

Yeah, pay for a Ferrari. The Netflix came a couple months later, the brand new Ferrari. No, no, no, no. That's not the kind of stuff I pray for. I ask myself a good question. Would I rather have a billion— I asked myself a good question. Would I rather have a billion dollars or like a billion laughs? And like, one can't help the other. So like, you can't like make a billion people laugh and that can't help you get to the billion dollars. Do you know what I'm saying? The question isn't fully— billion dollars. Yeah. The question isn't fully thought out because like, obviously you should take the billion. That's stupid. Making everybody like really happy and joyous and like not even selflessly. I'm saying selfishly. Like, I love when I make somebody laugh. Like, for me, like, like when I give somebody a gift, I always— I've always considered it like a selfish thing because I love giving the gift. It's cool that they're getting it, but I love to be able to do that, being the one. Yeah. So like, would you rather— like, I'm talking to the wrong guy, huh? Would you rather have 10 grand or a billion laughs? I don't know.

I'll take the 10 grand.

Yeah, no, I would take the billion dollars too over a billion laughs. It's a good question. No, I haven't fleshed out the question yet. I think in a couple podcasts I'll have it better.

These are just like quick thoughts. Jason, so on a scale of 1 to 10, how dumb is Ilya?

Oh, that's funny. Yeah, I mean, like, I love this game.

How dumb is he? Oh, you're asking me?

Yeah, it's tough, man, because like, that's a tough thing to judge about a person. Yeah, right, right. Because like, books art? Yes, I think he's, he's very, very down there. But like, is he a good like people person?

He's like emotionally intelligent.

Intelligent.

Yeah. Yes, he's really good at like problems.

Alex?

Yeah.

He's single? Yes. Let's say he gets engaged.

Yeah.

Who will be the best man, do you think?

Oh, I wouldn't be the best man.

You would not?

I think we've all talked about this and we all know who wouldn't want to be and who would be.

But you're not answering the question. Who would it be? Who would he choose?

Um, not probably Ilia, I would assume, right?

It's a good question, right? That is a good question.

Yeah. Oh my God, I never even thought of that for Alex.

It could be you.

Do you think? I think it's all three of you guys, cuz I think Ilia would choose me. Is that what you're saying? Like, you're saying like Ilia is the obvious one, Alex is the one that you don't know? Yeah.

Curious.

Al, can you come here real quick? Alex is here, my roommate. If you were to get engaged, who would be the best man at your wedding? Verbalize your thoughts.

Yes, but he doesn't know. Look at his face, he doesn't know.

No, and you would have said it. You won't offend me even though I'm the one asking.

He would have said it.

Yeah, I don't know. I've never thought about this either. I know, I think about it all the time.

Oh, you do?

Really?

Yeah.

I think you— you thought I would think John? Oh my God, what the fuck?

Wait, that's crazy.

What'd you say? Just goes, gay. What'd you say? I said Ilya. Not right now. Wow, that's crazy.

You choose me?

Crazy. No, I definitely didn't think you would choose John.

Really?

No. Yeah, well, everyone does, but I have like, you know, this personal— I don't know, but I do think with John— but also, don't you think that when we talk about that kind of shit, or maybe this is—

I'm just—

this is all in my head— it's like a big responsibility, and I feel for you, or— yeah, or whoever the best man is. Okay, fine, I'll choose John.

Thank you. It's a big responsibility it if it's you, because you do everything times 10 as anyone else would do.

Well, right, that was my only hesitation. I was like, I don't want that responsibility on you because I know you don't want it.

But well, yeah, that's crazy. I just feel like— I feel like you and— I mean, I don't know, maybe I'm not privy to like everything, but I feel like you and Ilya are just so much closer. Like, you guys talk about more like meaningful things.

Yeah, Alex and I are the OG friends, right? Yeah, like, I didn't actually— he became close with Ilya like what, high school? I wasn't until after college.

Yeah.

Oh, that's crazy. But yeah, they work together, so I guess they are.

Yeah, I just feel like you guys spend so much time together.

We have to get—

I probably have like more meaningful, deeper conversations.

You have to guess what Ilya is going to say. You have to guess.

Can we bring you in now for a sec? Ilya is here now. If Alex was to get married and engaged, who would he choose to be the best man? You.

Wow. Whoa, what the hell?

I knew that. I knew that. Such a simple answer. I knew that. I knew that Ilya was gonna answer it that way. I thought he would choose you. I bet on you.

You.

Really? Yeah, but I guess that is the illusion of like the work that you guys have. Oh yeah, that you guys are always together.

Yeah, I mean, who would you know?

I'm the longest. Obviously he would choose Mike if he didn't get dragged out to LA, right?

Yeah. Um, okay, so now who would I choose as the best man? Alex, who do you think?

Ilya.

Wow, this is like— this is like the saddest love triangle.

But Natalie would actually be doing all the work.

Ilya. Yeah, I'd probably choose Ilya.

Wait, would I be a part of your groom's party?

Yeah, actually.

Oh wow, okay, sick.

Why wouldn't you be part of the groom's party?

Um, because I'm a woman, Ilya.

What?

I'm not a man.

Be honest with me, you thought Natalie was a man this entire time?

This entire time? I mean, yeah, ever since I moved to LA, I was like, oh wow, she's a man. I thought you knew too. You just thought you could say anything. I was like, oh, he knows too. It was like an on-set thing. Now this dude, she's got a dick.

Well, for sure you're part of it.

I don't know if I want to be part of it, actually. I feel like you're just giving me more responsibility.

Um, but yeah, okay, thanks guys.

Dude, I can't wait for you to get married. Who's gonna be your best man?

Me? Probably y'all.

Oh, all right, that's fine.

Jason, did you want to be best man? Be honest. Was there like—

Yeah, of course.

Really?

Of course, I would love it. I mean, you mean a lot to me despite what, you know, how you treat me.

Welcome. Now that we talked about having 2 or 3 podcasts a week, what's the verdict here? I'm seeing a lot of— obviously a lot of people want multiple podcasts.

Yeah, they want multiple podcasts.

There were— I will say there were a couple people that were like, please just stick to one, because if you do 2, I know you're gonna quit somewhere halfway through.

Yeah, that's the comments that I read. Yeah, I saw. But yeah, go ahead.

Yeah, someone was like, you'll burn out, Dave, and you won't want to do it for another 2 years.

Oh my God, it's funny me what, what narrative you teach the audience, you know, because as I was reading the comments, I was like, oh no, I'm responsible for that. Uh, I always say he quit, he quit, so that's what they think.

But I— yeah, but if you actually really know me, you know that to really hook me, I have to be doing it 2 or 3 times a week. Yeah. Um, but also seeing more of the comments, everyone gave good reasons for why it should be 2 or 3, and I'm kind of— I'm leaning towards the 2. I'm leaning towards 2 a lot more than just keeping 1, and I'm leaning towards 2 more than 3. It's—

most people said 2.

I think we do 2 for a little bit. We try it after Coachella. All right, let's like kind of cool it down.

Are you gonna be able to do 2 a week?

Uh, I don't know. Worst case, we just stop altogether, right?

Oh my God, no, you can't stop.

Yeah, worst case, you have to understand, we go from 2 to 0 to TikTok Live. That's the formula. Someone— I really, I really did appreciate— I'm kidding, by the way. Um, I really did appreciate the comments. Like, it's like really sweet how much people like it, the podcast. Yes. And like, some, some one guy said like, please, I really need, I really need more Mexico border stories, and, and I love your soothing voice and Jason's old age. Like, it's, it was just like, it was really funny how like you could really tell people listen to it, right? Like, it's not just like people blindly commenting, it's like the people that are messaging, uh, us like really, really care about it. So it's sick. So yeah, I think two 2-week.

Let's do it. Yeah. Okay.

2-week.

Okay.

Starting a billion laughs.

Yeah. Go for a billion. Starting in July. No, I'm kidding.

What day is it going to come out?

I mean, Tuesdays and Thursdays definitely sounds way better.

Let's officially start next week. So this week, this is the only podcast you get. Next week we're going 2.

Okay.

We're going Tuesday and Thursday. Good luck, everybody. This is going to be big. You're going to know a lot more about us. So many more stories. I can't wait to talk to Jason for longer.

Yeah. And maybe we can set up an email or something, or like with questions and stuff.

Yeah. And I've also gotten the DMs about Last Natalie. We're going to work on that too. Just because we're going to say I'm here too, because we're 2xing it, we'll be 0.5ing Natalie. All right, guys, that's all the time we have for today's podcast. Thank you guys for listening. Thank you, Jack Reed, for joining us. Dude, for the longest time, Jack wanted us to shout him out on Instagram because he thought— he thought— yeah, don't fucking say it's not true. He said that the most important part about. He said, as a manager, more brands will take me seriously if I'm over 10K. Oh God, that's not true. I never said that. So go follow Jack Green on Instagram, please.

I want to do my version of views though too. Yeah, so you go first.

How do you do it? What's up guys, welcome back to views.

What's up guys, welcome back to views.

That's pretty good. Yeah, it's more expensive. That's nice. Um, go check out Natalie's, um, uh, things that she's working on behind my back.

And go check out Natalie's pickle.

Uh, go check out— what's Natalie's pickle?

Don't you have a pickle? Wait, what? Do I have a pickle? Where you rent clothes?

Oh, oh, oh, right, right.

Yes, go check out Natalie's pickle. And go check out Jason's other podcast, All Good Things.

Yes, yes.

Jrezy310.

That's Jack's Instagram. Thank you guys.

See you later.

Bye.

Bye guys.