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David0:07Moment view
What's up guys, welcome back to Views. This may be my final podcast before I try DMT. Oh, whoa.
Jason0:18Moment view
Yeah, headline.
David0:19Moment view
Yeah, I just told Natalie we're gonna watch Lord of the Rings this Sunday, and I said, is there any way you can give me DMT right before? I want to experience it.
Natalie0:26Moment view
I don't know when I became the token DMT plug.
Jason0:31Moment view
Nat the plug.
David0:32Moment view
That just feels like she'd have it. Listen, I've been seeing a lot about it, Nat X, and I think I'm in.
Jason0:39Moment view
This is shocking news right now that I'm hearing. I can't believe this is coming out of your mouth.
David0:43Moment view
That's why I wanted to save it for the pod. And normally I'm like, you try weed for the first time with a friend. This I completely want to do on my own. And I want all my friends to be there just so obviously they can like safeguard me. But I've just been— it's just been coming up on my feet and speaking to me recently, and I think I just have to go for it. Let's take a leap of faith. A lot of people say— I'm not trying to promote DMT here, but a lot of people say like when you smoke weed or you do mushrooms, people have their own kinds of like different varying experiences. But people that do DMT all kind of track and say almost the same exact thing happens to them.
Jason1:21Moment view
What?
David1:23Moment view
Like they meet these beings and it's basically— we've talked about this before, like a long time ago, that like it unlocks part of your brain and the beings are like, we're so glad you've discovered us. Like, welcome to this technology. And it's like, it's like, it's almost like it's connecting like parts of your brain that were never connected before. Obviously, I'm about 45 minutes into research of DMT, right? So, so like me explaining this to you and this all started because, because this is, this is how this started to get on my feed. I was watching— there was a, there's another podcast, and they were talking about like, what's like the craziest fact ever? Yeah. And apparently this is real. In the 1960s, NASA was trying to teach dolphins how to speak English. So they were feeding the dolphins LSD. Right. And it was like working pretty well. Like the dolphins were doing, having a better job communicating. I'm not even kidding. No way. And, but, but this is real.
Jason2:17Moment view
Making dolphin sound that was a language.
David2:20Moment view
I don't know how far they got, obviously. It could also be, hey professor. I don't know. No, no. I don't think the dolphins were like, I think they were just like, I love the research that you're doing here.
Natalie2:28Moment view
You're really getting—
Jason2:28Moment view
no, no, but that's not like one squeak.
David2:31Moment view
That's not the important part. This, this should explain to you what actually happened. They had to stop doing the experiments because one of the scientists started having sex with one of the dolphins. That's how it happens. Named Peter, right? And so they had to shut down the experiments. The scientists could no longer see Peter. And then afterwards, Peter killed himself.
Jason2:49Moment view
Oh my God, the dolphin!
Natalie2:51Moment view
The dolphin!
David2:53Moment view
Okay, that's crazy.
Jason2:54Moment view
It's clearly clear that Peter was doing the acid too.
David2:57Moment view
Yeah, right. No, no, Peter is the dolphin.
Jason2:59Moment view
Oh, Peter killed himself? You're kidding.
David3:03Moment view
Yeah.
Jason3:04Moment view
Oh, he was doing the acid, right?
David3:05Moment view
So yeah, so the dolphin was— I mean, was fucking pissed that he lost his partner that was a scientist. I mean, I don't want to— I don't want to assume why Peter killed himself. How do you have— did Peter really kill himself? Yeah. So I think that's like a big thing. That's kind of why I'm like really interested about DMT. You know, also—
Jason3:24Moment view
but you're not a drug guy.
David3:26Moment view
Not a drug guy at all. But I've always said this is since— you don't smoke weed since the jump. No, I've always said I wanted to try everything once. Okay. I just like—
Natalie3:34Moment view
what is it about DMT though, specifically that you're like interested in? Just because you want to also have this otherworldly experience other people are saying that they have?
David3:43Moment view
Well, I've just been seeing a lot of like different conspiracy theories about how like Like, remember a couple podcasts ago I talked about like, what if you had another sense? Like, that was like, not like your sense of smell. Like, if humans never had sense of smell, you would never be able to describe a smell. Right? Right. Like, that's just it. And it's like, what if DMT can unlock different senses that still exist here on Earth, but we just have no way of accessing it?
Jason4:09Moment view
So people from different parts of the world have taken DMT and they say the same thing. They see the same beings.
David4:14Moment view
Yeah, okay, let me read you this. This thing I found that's really interesting. In 1995, there's a scientist that discovered a doorway to another dimension. He injected 60 people with 400 doses of DMT. Most reported meeting the same entities. The pattern was beyond scientific. Okay. His goal was to study the effectiveness of psychedelics on consciousness. And then DMT is naturally found in the human brain, blood, lungs, plants, animals. It's nicknamed the spirit molecule. So he injected 400 doses to 60 volunteers over 5 years. And everyone was describing not just hallucinations. They weren't dreams. There were part— the participants were describing the same scenes, same beings, same worlds. Time after time, people described entering a space more real than reality, filled with colors they'd never seen, complex 4D geometry, intelligence beyond comprehension. And most chilling of all, entities. Participants used the same words to describe them: machine elves, light beings, insectoid aliens, jesters, higher intelligence. They heard things like this from them: "We've been waiting for you." Iron Man. "We're glad you made it back." They interacted, they taught, they operated on people using light and energy. Some gave warnings, others gave revelations, but that's not the strangest part. Nearly all participants came back changed emotionally, spiritually, existentially. One subject said, she said, "I felt like I left my real home and came back to a fake world." Another said, they knew me better than I knew myself. It was terrifying. And another said, they told me humans have forgotten who they are. Like, this is fucking crazy. Wow. Is that crazy?
Jason5:50Moment view
Yeah.
David5:50Moment view
And it's like a 10 to 15 minute trip.
Natalie5:52Moment view
That's what's crazy to me is that it's only 15 minutes.
David5:55Moment view
What's scary about it is I've read another thing of this one guy who took a trip and lived a full life with, in the, like during the Mayan days with his wife and children and family, like lived a full 80-year-old, 60-year-old life or whatever.
Jason6:10Moment view
In 15 minutes?
David6:11Moment view
In 15 minutes. No. Which is kind of scary. Yeah. So like that freaks me out. 'Cause if I lived another life on a trip, like obviously I'm coming back full-blown changed. Like you can't get yourself back to like your grounded self. But I need to do this.
Jason6:29Moment view
Where do you get it?
David6:30Moment view
I don't know. That's why I was just like, Nat, can you figure it out before Lord of the Rings?
Natalie6:34Moment view
Before Sunday, real quick?
David6:36Moment view
I think there's like people that like walk you through it and stuff.
Jason6:39Moment view
Well, there's like shamans.
David6:40Moment view
Yeah. Yeah. And I think—
Jason6:42Moment view
I mean, I know you can do ayahuasca in like Woodland Hills.
David6:44Moment view
I'm assuming it's— maybe they can get DMT here.
Jason6:47Moment view
No.
Natalie6:47Moment view
Say what? I'm sure there's lots of— you know, Joe Rogan is like the— isn't he like the big D?
Jason6:52Moment view
I don't know if he's done DMT.
David6:55Moment view
Maybe. No, no, no. That's his like big thing, I think.
Natalie6:56Moment view
Yeah, that's his big thing. He's like the— there's like a documentary on DMT and he's like the spokesperson in the documentary.
Jason7:01Moment view
Oh, really? Yeah. Okay.
David7:03Moment view
So years later, after the research, Scientists picked up where this guy left off. So the guy that was doing the research had to stop it because it got too real. Too many reports of telepathy, alien surgery, future prophecy, shared experiences. He was scared that he opened a doorway he didn't know how to close, basically. And then years later, researchers picked up where he left off and they kind of came to the conclusion that unlike dreams or LSD, which vary wildly, this showed a structured realm. That people were entering, like a very consistent thing that all people across these regions were entering the same place. So they kind of linked it to like, okay, so when they were studying the brain, they were showing that the brain was lighting up like a Christmas tree and parts of the brain were talking to each other that normally wouldn't communicate with each other. Which is so like quite literally like turning on like a radio tuner to like, to like tuning into like a new right realm or whatever. Wow. So I think it's interesting. I don't know. I'm definitely not a druggie and this isn't something I would abuse and I would like just try it once and obviously I'd be scared going into it. And I have heard of like really bad trips. I have heard of like people like doing this and like they think they're a stop sign for like 40 years. Really? I thought it was like acid. Maybe, maybe I'm actually mixing it.
Natalie8:21Moment view
You're right. Because I was like, when you texted me this, I did my own little side research.
David8:25Moment view
You found out where to get it for me?
Natalie8:26Moment view
No, no.
David8:27Moment view
Where to get DMT for you. Boss.
Natalie8:30Moment view
Um, no, but I was just like, I like— what is— what it— what about it makes it like illegal, right? Because I was like, is it—
David8:36Moment view
was it hard to find why it was illegal? Yes. Yeah, same here. I was like, is it illegal? And then it said it was like legalized in Washington, D.C. No.
Natalie8:44Moment view
Well, no, it said that like in the '60s they like— they made a lot of psychedelics illegal, but I was like, why this one specifically? Because I was like, I know acid like burns your brain, right, or whatever, over time if you take it several times. But there's a lot of cases where there's people that are taking several doses of, of DMT and they're like, okay, they have these other experiences or whatever. But and it just kept saying, and not to be an advocate either, but it was just saying like things like acid and alcohol, like they deteriorate your body over time. Like this doesn't do that. Really?
David9:13Moment view
Yeah. Yeah.
Jason9:13Moment view
Which I thought was really interesting. It has to do with DMT is like what releases in your body when you're dying.
David9:19Moment view
Yes, I think that's it.
Jason9:20Moment view
Yeah. And so when you do DMT, you're drawing on that thing. So when you die, you might not have enough DMT. Do you know what I'm saying? If you do it a lot.
David9:32Moment view
I don't— oh yeah, I mean, like I said, do it only once. Right.
Jason9:36Moment view
But I mean, even to do it once—
David9:37Moment view
I don't know, my For You page on TikTok has really been acting up against me.
Jason9:40Moment view
What's going on with that For You page?
David9:42Moment view
It's leading me down a really scary— I'm like completely lost in what is this planet now. Yeah. And I'm like, it's like really worrying me. Like I'm starting to believe that the moon is fake. It's a space station. Yeah. Like I'm fully convinced. Convinced of that, that it was like built like 12,000 years ago and pulled here. I don't know, I'm like really nervous about things. Yeah. So yeah, I'm gonna do DMT at like at this week time.
Jason10:05Moment view
I mean, oh, can I be there?
David10:07Moment view
Yeah, 100%. Okay. Yeah, I watched a video of this guy doing it.
Jason10:11Moment view
Maybe we podcast it. Uh, sure.
David10:13Moment view
Oh wow, that's kind of interesting because I was like, I was like, I'd want to film it, but I don't like want to show that on camera, so maybe we podcast it.
Natalie10:20Moment view
What do you know what actually happens?
David10:22Moment view
I watched this guy do it. Oh, you did? And he just froze for like 10 minutes.
Jason10:27Moment view
Is he saying anything?
David10:28Moment view
No, no, no, no. He's like completely gone.
Natalie10:30Moment view
Are your eyes open?
David10:31Moment view
Like laying down? No, it's almost like he looked like he just had almost a heart attack and he was just kind of catching himself, but very calm, very calm, but eyes closed, not sleeping, just kind of like He's obviously experiencing something in his head, like he's having a vision, like from a movie or something.
Jason10:50Moment view
Like, then when he came out of it, what happened?
David10:52Moment view
He was groggy for a second. He had to, like, go walk outside, and then he kind of spoke about it right after. So I don't know. But I think people have— I'm like, I'm worried that I don't want to, like, a bad experience. But I also don't think I would put myself in that situation. Also, I do think that it helps you be connected more to nature, which is a good positive because I hate the fucking trees that my neighbor has that block my view. And I think If I can't cut those trees down, I'm going to do DMT. I think that's the only—
Jason11:19Moment view
You walk outside, you're like, it's okay. It's okay. Everyone's okay. That tree's okay. It can stay.
David11:26Moment view
I knock on his door. I'm like, plant more.
Jason11:29Moment view
Yeah, more trees are good.
David11:31Moment view
Trees are nice. I don't know if anybody listening to this has had an experience with DMT. Yeah, I've yet to see a comment that's like, don't do this. Did you see that when you were researching?
Natalie11:42Moment view
Yeah, because that's what I was trying to find. I was like, what's the worst case scenario?
David11:45Moment view
Yeah. And I didn't see anything like that.
Natalie11:48Moment view
Yeah.
David11:48Moment view
Yeah. So I was just like, okay, I'm going to run it. I'm going to do it just once.
Jason11:52Moment view
Yeah, I know. But what if it changes your personality? What if you don't?
David11:56Moment view
I don't know. But it'd be so weird.
Natalie11:57Moment view
I don't think it chemically changes anything within you. I think you just have an experience.
David12:01Moment view
But Nat, if you're— but it does. If you're having— if you're living another life in your trip, you have a full life of knowledge that now you have and that you're going to be different. But I think whatever the change is, Yeah, it doesn't matter because it'll be for— it'll be what I want in that moment. Okay. So like if I come out and all of a sudden I'm like a hippie going into the woods. Yeah, right. Like that is what I want to do. Right. So I don't view it as a negative. Okay. It is like it's life altering.
Jason12:32Moment view
You sell all your worldly possessions, you give the house to Jon Adams.
David12:35Moment view
You know what's a problem if I sell my Kids' Choice Award? If I come out of it and I look at that thing and I go, get rid of this. That's how you know.
Jason12:44Moment view
You get a Kia Soul, you start camping out of it, become one of those people. You get gauges in your ear.
David12:50Moment view
It's really interesting. But I've been, yeah, guys, listen, this podcast, I'm gonna teach you a lot of things. I've been really polishing my facts. You wanna hear more facts? Yeah. Okay. Well, did you know that this is an interesting way to think about things, that what do you think is one of the rarest materials in the universe? Placenta. What? I think it's honestly probably a good answer. No, but like you would say like, like we, we would say diamonds, right? Yeah. Just because like that is like kind of difficult to find, but like other planets would maybe say like wood. Isn't that kind of crazy to think about? Mm-hmm.
Jason13:25Moment view
We're flush with wood.
David13:27Moment view
Exactly. Yeah. Like if you visit another planet and you brought back my neighbor's tree. Yeah. For example, you'd be fucking loaded.
Jason13:34Moment view
They don't admit they also might look at it and be like, this is shit.
David13:36Moment view
Like, what is this?
Jason13:38Moment view
No, wood.
David13:38Moment view
I don't actually think so. I feel like diamond is like, diamond has no purpose. Like, what purpose does diamond have other than like pretty?
Natalie13:46Moment view
I mean, that is the only purpose.
Jason13:47Moment view
Yeah. I mean, it's like, I feel like wood is like an organic.
David13:50Moment view
It's like life. I mean, is a diamond organic?
Jason13:53Moment view
It is. Wood has more purpose because you build stuff with it. You mean?
David13:56Moment view
I don't know. Yeah. I just think of like things live in it.
Jason13:59Moment view
You like diamonds, Nat? You want a big rock one day, or would you like a big wood—
Natalie14:05Moment view
just a big piece of wood? Uh, no, no. Yeah, I could— I want a good-sized diamond for sure.
David14:10Moment view
Okay, okay, sorry, I gotta keep going because there's a lot to cover here. Okay, then I looked up paradoxes. I'm like really into paradoxes. The guys, this already sounds like I did the, the DMT, but I didn't. Um, this is speaking of wood. Have you heard of the, the Theseus paradox? No. Okay, so it's the Ship of Theseus is a thought experiment from ancient Greece. This is really fucking interesting. The story goes the hero Theseus had a wooden ship preserved for years. As planks rotted, they were replaced one by one until eventually every single piece of wood had been swapped out. So here's the question: if every part has been replaced, is it still the same ship? It's really interesting. Whoa. Is that not crazy? Now let me expand that for you so you could really, so you could really understand it. Okay. Now imagine someone collected all the original planks that they took off the ship and rebuilt the ship somewhere else using the old wood. Now you have two ships of Theseus. Which one is the real one? The one that kept its identity over time, or the one made of the original materials? Ooh, that's fucking crazy.
Natalie15:23Moment view
That's wild. What would you say?
David15:24Moment view
What's your— I don't know. That's why it's a paradox. I think it's like a 50. I think that's fucking insane.
Jason15:30Moment view
It's like two ways of saying—
David15:31Moment view
again, why I need to do DMT so I can have the answers. And apparently it's, you know, it's more than just about chips. It's about identity. Are you the same person you were 10 years ago, even though your cells have changed? Is a company the same company after leadership, employees, and policies change? So, yeah, really interesting paradox.
Jason15:54Moment view
Dave's going out there.
David15:55Moment view
Yeah, I've just been researching this morning. I don't know. I just feel like—
Jason15:59Moment view
you think you could, like, write a paper and, like, do you think you could take, like, a— not that you would, but you could take a college class right now, do research and, like, write a paper?
David16:08Moment view
No, because I don't like to, like, really get down to the bottom of things.
Jason16:12Moment view
You just like to kind of pose the question and walk out of the room.
David16:14Moment view
Yeah. Yeah. I like—
Jason16:16Moment view
think about this, assholes.
David16:18Moment view
And I don't like to answer for myself either. I'm just like, sick. Yeah. Like, isn't that crazy? And then move on to the next one.
Jason16:24Moment view
Yeah.
David16:24Moment view
Did Peter kill himself? I don't know. I'm fucking out. No research. I don't want to communicate with SeaWorld or wherever they were doing this experiment.
Jason16:34Moment view
Peter, how do you fuck a dolphin?
David16:36Moment view
Well, that's what I was also thinking. I was like, if I met a dolphin. Yeah. With like the— like, I remember like watching kids shows like as a kid and like you're attracted to some of the cartoons, right? Like that's like a thing. Yeah. Like I can't even think of like cartoons I was attracted to. Wonder Woman. No, Wonder Woman wasn't like a cartoon. Like I'm talking like some, some— Yeah, she was. That's not even a human. Is there that? Can you do that with a dolphin? I don't know. I'm trying to put my head in the, trying to put myself in the shoes of the scientist.
Jason17:06Moment view
Well, there's the octopus tissue.
David17:07Moment view
And how smooth was this? How smooth was this dolphin? After taking this LSD where this scientist was so charmed by this thing that was like, I need to have sex with you. Yeah.
Natalie17:18Moment view
I don't know.
David17:19Moment view
Really strange. What are you going to say?
Natalie17:22Moment view
Well, I just, there was a, this is totally on a tangent, but there was a report that came out that just said, we've changed into just like a news show. So it took the top 10 economies in the world. So the top 10 countries that are making the most amount of money. Right. And what are the highest earning jobs in those countries? So for the— what do you think it is for the US?
Jason17:43Moment view
Oh, I saw this.
David17:43Moment view
Wait, wait, wait. Say it again.
Natalie17:45Moment view
The top 10 highest earning countries in the world. So you have the US, China, Germany, whatever. And then it took the highest earning job in that economy. So in the US, what the highest earning job is.
David17:57Moment view
In China, what's the highest earning job? Like if you have it, it makes you the most money or it makes the country the most money?
Natalie18:05Moment view
No, what's making people the most money. Not necessarily making the country rich or anything like that.
David18:11Moment view
I don't really know how to answer this.
Jason18:12Moment view
What's the highest paid job in the United States?
David18:13Moment view
Yeah. Oh, well, I don't know. That would be like the CEO of Amazon. I don't know how to answer this. What does that mean? There's people that make billions.
Jason18:25Moment view
I guess he raises a good point. He's totally thwarting what you're doing, stupid ass.
Natalie18:32Moment view
I know.
Jason18:32Moment view
You're like, tell him who the highest paid job is in the United States.
Natalie18:36Moment view
Being an influencer? Reports suggest that the top top-paying professions across the world's 40 largest companies or economies differ significantly. Okay, in the U.S., top earners reportedly include successful OnlyFans creators. OnlyFans creators is the top, uh, like earning job in the U.S. Okay, and then in China it's a tech executive, and then Japan it's a surgeon. India, there's AI engineers. UK is investment banking. France is also sort of—
David19:07Moment view
that is really interesting.
Natalie19:08Moment view
Everywhere else it's like the, like, cliché, like, technical jobs, and in the US it was OnlyFans creator.
David19:13Moment view
Does that make you want to lean more into it?
Natalie19:17Moment view
No, I'm not like— I'm, I'm like—
David19:19Moment view
I've— dude, what a fucking crazy hack. No.
Jason19:22Moment view
Yeah, OnlyFans, insane. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I, if I was a girl, I'd probably do it.
David19:29Moment view
Probably do it, Jay. Come on, for sure, my dude. Probably do it. Yeah.
Natalie19:40Moment view
Um, no, but it is— it's just crazy, like, how much the US, like, values—
David19:44Moment view
I can't really fathom OnlyFans. It's, like, very difficult for me to think. It's, like, such a money glitch. Yeah. It's like, you— like, if you have some social media following, people do it without, right, and still make, like, their rent easily. Yeah. Like, if you have social media following, you turn that on It's fucking insanity. I guess I'm not thinking about like the downsides to it later.
Jason20:08Moment view
Like, I wonder what percentage are like happy with it.
David20:12Moment view
Yeah, I wonder how much of it is like you're really happy at first. Yeah, I think that's everybody, right? I think there must be everybody because everybody gets the money. Like, I'm making so much money, and then you want what you don't have, and that is wanting to never have started OnlyFans. Yeah, yeah, like that just kind of feels like it, unless you're also just super comfortable with what you do. And then you're just like, yeah, I do only— which I think is the way to approach that. Yeah. Like, it's like you do it. So what?
Jason20:40Moment view
Yeah. We had a funny moment in the gym the other day.
David20:42Moment view
It was—
Jason20:42Moment view
we were all in the gym and this guy was talking about how his dick smells.
David20:51Moment view
And that's gross.
Jason20:52Moment view
And then right at that moment, like, Natalie walked in and it was really funny. And to pay you a compliment, I was like, I hope you know it was a compliment. I was like, well, that's the one girl that, like, you can Not feel bad about walking in on that combo.
Natalie21:05Moment view
It was like 5 dudes around a squat rack.
David21:07Moment view
Dude, it's just Natalie. That was funny when we had that YouTuber that came by. Yeah. Natalie and I were like cutting a cake. Yeah. And we were trying to unbox a cake and like we couldn't get it open and we couldn't get like the tape off the box. And he makes a comment. He goes, 2 dudes trying to open a cake.
Natalie21:25Moment view
And I was like, I'm a woman.
David21:28Moment view
I thought it was so funny because it's obviously just like making a funny comment, but it was so— it's just clearly me and Natalie trying to open this thing. It's so funny. Um, okay, you want to go back to more learning? Because I got you guys. Okay, did you know— I got the exact— so do you know the Lion King song?
Natalie21:47Moment view
Yes.
David21:47Moment view
Did you see this?
Natalie21:48Moment view
I saw this.
David21:48Moment view
This is crazy.
Natalie21:50Moment view
Crazy.
David21:50Moment view
Yeah, this one. Yeah, you were way off. So these guys talk about the exact translation of what it is. Okay. Do you know what it is? No. Okay, listen to this. Listen, listen.
Jason22:04Moment view
What does it mean?
David22:05Moment view
It means, look, there's a lion. Oh my God. You're joking. That is not what that means. That is not what that means. That's exactly what it means. It means, look, there's a lion. Oh my God. Look, there's a lion. Oh my God. That's crazy. That's crazy. Someone also translated Bad Bunny song the other day. Did you see that? That blew my fucking mind.
Jason22:38Moment view
What did it translate to?
David22:39Moment view
It was like Mucha Novia. You know that one? Yeah. And it's like, it's just like, I have a girlfriend, but I want another. I want another.
Natalie22:52Moment view
It was so funny.
David22:52Moment view
But when you're listening to it, you're like, what is this? Beauty. Well, beauty is coming through this. I mean, that's amazing. That's kind of actually the coolest part about music is that it could be that. Okay. Anyway, I'm not done. So guys, you could listen to this pod and if your parents think you're not doing anything productive, just fucking throw some facts at them. First of all, Amazon rainforest, you know how big this thing is? So big. Yeah. Larger than the 48 states.
Jason23:18Moment view
Oh my God.
David23:18Moment view
Like here in the middle. Isn't that crazy? More than 60% of it is unexplored. Larger than 48— the 48 states. Wow. Come on. Really? Let that sink in. Wow. Yeah. Okay. There's a fact. Okay. My last paradox.
Jason23:35Moment view
I thought you were going to have more stuff about the Amazon.
David23:37Moment view
There was more. I didn't really understand it. Okay. This is the paradox I don't really understand. So I'm going to need you guys to help explaining it. Have you heard of the Andromeda Paradox? No. Okay, so basically it's you, you're sitting right where you're sitting, Jay. Okay. And you're looking at Andromeda, right? You're looking at another galaxy in a distant galaxy. You're looking at it.
Jason24:02Moment view
Cool.
David24:03Moment view
And then I walk by you. Yeah. And I look at the same exact galaxy, but I'm in motion and you're sitting, standing still, right? We are viewing the same galaxy through the same location, but we're seeing different times because you're moving. Because I'm moving. So, so does that make sense? We're both looking at Andromeda. That's 2.5 million light years away.
Natalie24:30Moment view
Like, you guys are both sitting on Earth next to each other staring at it.
Jason24:34Moment view
Okay.
David24:34Moment view
Yeah, but I'm moving. Okay. Okay. So right now in Andromeda, your viewpoint could be that aliens are debating whether to invade Earth., and then me, as I'm moving, what I'm seeing could be they've already decided and they've launched the ships. Yeah. Isn't that crazy?
Jason24:53Moment view
Staring at it.
David24:54Moment view
And both descriptions are equally valid depending on your motion.
Jason24:58Moment view
So if we could see that far.
David25:01Moment view
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like if you had a telescope that was moving. And this is because time and space are linked together. Events that are simultaneous for one observer are not simultaneous for another moving observer. Hmm. The difference grows with distance. Since Andromeda is absurdly far away, even tiny differences in walking speed create huge differences in what counts as now over there.
Jason25:21Moment view
Isn't that crazy? You sound like you did the DMT already.
David25:25Moment view
But this is what I'm just trying to paint the picture of what's going on on my For You page. I'm being fucked left and right here. Something's going on. I'm all I'm getting. All I'm getting is that aliens are here. And they're among us. Like, it's like really fucking scary what's going on. Yeah, my— yeah, my For You page is sending me on a trip that I don't think I'll be able to like recover from.
Jason25:46Moment view
All I get is CIA stuff.
David25:49Moment view
Really? Yeah.
Jason25:50Moment view
Like what? There's this guy named John Kiriakou. He sets all my For You pages. He's just like an ex-CIA agent that, um, is just telling you about the CIA on every single podcast, everywhere you go.
David26:01Moment view
He's like a whistleblower?
Jason26:03Moment view
Yeah. And he went to jail.
David26:05Moment view
Oh, wow. And how is that allowed?
Jason26:08Moment view
Well, someone made a good point, which was like, you know, you think he's telling secrets, but if he was really telling secrets, he would not be telling secrets.
David26:16Moment view
But that's exactly that. Like, that's also like a point that people have used to oppose someone like a Bob Lazar. Yeah.
Jason26:26Moment view
Like, if—
David26:27Moment view
Yeah, yeah. If he was killed, then everything was verified, right? Uh-huh. But if you just kind of let him talk, no one's ever going to— you know what I mean? I think we're— I think we're especially at the point where anybody can say anything. So like, if there is a CIA whistleblower, unless he's— unless even, even if he has a video of him inside, of him inside like speaking to aliens, no one will ever believe in it. Like, you do what I mean? Yeah. Like, now any information could be leaked anywhere and people will be like, one, you're either crazy 2, it could be AI. Like, it doesn't matter. And the CIA is obviously smart enough to be like, if you have a whistleblower, you just let him go. Yeah, you let him talk about whatever.
Jason27:06Moment view
Yeah, this kind of stuff he's talking about, it's not aliens. It's like, you know, the way the government conducts themselves.
David27:12Moment view
Yeah, but like, right, is it true? Who cares? Just the same way I'm bringing up things. Yeah, who cares?
Jason27:21Moment view
Well, I do feel that way with people now where it's like we've gotten— there's so much coming at us that that's what's— that's what people are saying. Who cares?
David27:28Moment view
It's like, well, wait, I'm so frustrated about is like, what are you supposed to like latch on to now? Yeah, like back in the 2000s, still the 2000s, the early 2000s, like you'd watch a documentary and you'd be like, did you see this document? Like everything was so factual. Yeah, even though it may have not been, but like it was still limited to like how many people can create a documentary. Yes, anybody can say fucking anything. And like, there's a new conspiracy and there's a new whistleblower and there's a new time traveler and there's a new alien, um, visitor. Like, it's just like, it's like so—
Jason28:03Moment view
you're like being so overwhelmed with information that like, is it the end of civilization, dude?
David28:07Moment view
That's what I'm— that's what I'm so scared about. That's why I'm like, I need to take this fucking hit of this DMT and I need to tell you guys what's going on.
Jason28:13Moment view
You're gonna come back and be like, yes, it is. Yeah, it is the end.
David28:17Moment view
But it's like, is that not spooky? Like, where does— where do things go?
Jason28:21Moment view
What do you mean, where do things go?
David28:23Moment view
Like, where— like, like, everything's just like— everything's so overwhelming. Everything's so overwhelming. Every piece of information is so overwhelming that it's all underwhelming. Right, right. Natalie's reaction to when I was like, Obama just said that there's aliens. Now he was like, yeah, don't we know that? Nobody gives a fuck anymore. There was a lunar eclipse yesterday happening over LA, and I told— I told Alex, I was like, I've already seen lunar eclipse. Yeah, that's the lamest thing ever. When I was a kid, when I was a kid, I would fucking wait for a lunar eclipse for like months. Boring.
Jason28:57Moment view
Yeah.
David28:58Moment view
And next, I was 20 minutes away from the lunar eclipse and I'm like, I'm just popping my melatonin. I'm going to bed. I just like, don't care because I'm like, I'm seeing so many things. I literally texted Alex back. I was like, the moon's not real.
Jason29:09Moment view
There's—
David29:09Moment view
it's an alien spacecraft. I don't need to see it turn red.
Jason29:12Moment view
You've come full circle here. Now I know why you want to do the DMT. You need a hard reset.
David29:18Moment view
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what I need.
Jason29:20Moment view
You could put your phone down a little bit.
David29:22Moment view
If you're a longtime listener, well, at least the last 2-week listener, you'll know that I was in a big paddle tournament here in Beverly Hills, Los Angeles, California, Sherman Oaks. Um, it didn't go so well. I lost. Yep. Um, the first day went incredible. I won 3 matches. Okay. Um, and the second day, which just happened an hour ago, yeah, I took Jason with me. Yeah, I took John with me. John has been with me through this entire time. This is what I want to get into. This is why I'm bringing all this up. So it cost $1,200 to enter the tournament. And if you win the tournament, you win $6,000. If you get to the semis, you win your money back and so forth. Right. Okay. So I was like, John, I already paid the $1,200, but if you want to Venmo me, I'll, I'll get you in. Like, if you give me $200, then you'll 6x your money, whatever. The same way I would, right? Like, you can buy equity in my stake. Sponsoring. So John was like kind of 50-50. And then the first day comes around. I haven't played padel in months. So he was kind of like, I don't know, Dave. I don't know. Then he gets to the first— Why are you making me sound like that? He gets to the first day and I'm about to play my match. I'm like, John, you got to let me know right now. Are you putting money in or not? And he's like, I don't know. Then he watches me play my first match and we win. And then he's still kind of, I don't know. And then midway through the second match, apparently that's when he makes his decision. He's like, okay Dave, I'm gonna bet $200. And then at the end of all 3 matches on my first day, all of a sudden Taylor's now putting money, Mike's putting money. Well, now I'm, now I'm only one match away from winning money back. So I'm like, John, this isn't gambling. Like you just waited for when the odds were completely different and put money in. Well, and then yesterday John's entire mood changes. He's like, Dave, you win this whole fucking tournament. It's obvious now. I saw you play, and now he's got something riding on it.
Jason31:09Moment view
Yeah.
David31:09Moment view
And I'm— well, not only that, but he just like— his like belief system has changed. I'm like, John— and I hate when John says things during sports, like even— okay, so first match, uh, or sorry, the second match, I come off, we split sets. So in the middle of the match, but I won the first set, and John's like, okay, so the next game you guys are playing these guys. And I'm like, John, we're in the middle of a fucking game. It's not over. Like, John just doesn't— John will like— Al, explain. To be fair, to be fair, that was your weakest, weakest opponent, dude. It doesn't matter. I've been talking to that guy the whole time. It doesn't matter. John's never played a competitive sport. Yeah. So like, so I think his like—
Jason31:46Moment view
I was having trouble. It was my first paddle and I was going through John to understand what was going on. Oh, it was probably all over the place. I was like, is it—
David31:55Moment view
wait, Al, explain how he sounds confident explaining it.
Jason31:57Moment view
Yeah, I was like, no, I go, I go, if the ball If the ball goes past the line on a return, that's okay, right? He's like, no, no, that's not okay. And then I watched David do it and I was like, no, that is okay. And he's like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that is okay.
David32:11Moment view
I was like, what? Well, when David does it, it's okay. Explain John. Like, he'll make a prejudgment about something. Yeah, he bases everything on— And we're also— this is also Call of Duty. Yeah. So like, he's dialed back on it because we scream at him for this, but we'll— Like almost every weekend, all the hometown friends get together, we get in a lobby of 6 players, and we go play search and destroy against other people. And the second John sees that they're high ranks, John loses his shit. John goes, "We should back out! We should back out!" And I'm like, "John, we've been playing this game since we were fucking 11. We've been playing this game for literally longer than we've been doing anything our entire lives. More than I've had a career. More than I—" Honestly, more than I've spoken English correctly.
Jason32:57Moment view
Probably better at Call of Duty than sex. Yeah, 1,000%.
David33:00Moment view
I'm better at Call of Duty than sex. I'm like, John, shut the fuck up. I don't care what rank they are. Like, we're going into this and we're gonna fuck. But he just makes so many assumptions going in. And then same opposite, he'll see low ranks and he'll automatically be like, we got them. And it's just like a crazy mental thing. And so then yesterday Yesterday after the 3 matches, Jon was like so confidently putting in the $200, and I was like, I told him this, this was on my Snap, I was like, Jon, I didn't do this for that reason, but I'm like, Jon, I want to throw the game tomorrow just to teach you a lesson about all this. Yeah. Like, you're coming in, this isn't how things work. It's match by match. You should have been here at the beginning. Like, you're a bandwagon gambler, which I've never even— which should be illegal. Like, there's no such thing as being a bandwagon gambler and still getting the same good odds. Like, you're seeing the rest of the table's hand. Yeah. Um, anyway, so yeah, I lost today. And you were pissed at him on the way home. Yeah, I was. Yeah, I was like, John, you cost me the game. You did say that. I did say 50% of it was John's fault. 25% mine, 25% my partners.
Jason34:10Moment view
And he was yelling at John on the way home, and he was like, he's like, because you said that I had it in the bag.
David34:15Moment view
I wasn't even looking at quarterfinals. I was looking at the finals. Were you even watching any other matches? Yeah, I was. No, no, he was. He was just basing off like— He's basing it off like what name sounded more Spanish, possibly was a better padel player. No. And he was telling me in the car, he's like, I already was telling my girlfriend Julia about like, like, hey, when I win this money, I'm going to— we're going to go here, we're going to travel here. I'm like, there's a level of like, there's a level of manifestation that, you know, that I kind of understand. But like, John's is like, is just like, I don't even know how to describe it. I don't know. He's also a big— like, he focuses only on the result, not the process of like if there was any luck to get, or like, you know what I mean? Yeah, he's a— he has a very, very interesting way of going about competitive things. Like, it will be playing pickleball and he'll be like, he'll be like with his partner and he'll notice his partner like run for a ball. Yeah. And then John will go, oh, you're a chaser. Like, like, like he'll deem, like, it's like, um, like if you're playing Mortal Kombat and there's like attributes to a player and it's like, okay, so you'll be the chaser for this game. So you'll chase down the balls. Like, that's not a position in pickleball. Like nobody, nobody's deemed the chaser, but like John, like looks at things in like such a bizarre way where John loves to not move. John loves to not move. Hmm.
Jason35:36Moment view
Interesting.
David35:36Moment view
You're the chaser. I'll, I'll be the stander back here. Um, but yeah, anyway. Yeah, like, obviously I'm pretty fired up. Um, but yeah, we lost. So, but what is interesting, and I kind of wanted you to explain to me of why I feel this way. I was explaining this to John. Not really. I was explaining this to like my friends yesterday. I don't know to who, but I was like, when I was in the tournament, I was like, there's nothing more in life right now that matters to me more than this tournament. Yeah. And I've never felt something about something so insignificant. I realized that I was like, what's so crazy is all I can do is think about this. Like, even when I was playing Call of Duty last night, yeah, my mind was else— like, I was like, I, I— for the first time, I didn't care about Call of Duty. Wow. And I was like— and it's so— I've never been a part of something so insignificant since my childhood, yeah, that mattered so much.
Jason36:30Moment view
Why do you think it matters so much?
David36:32Moment view
I don't know. I think it's because, like, it takes me back to, like, playing tournaments as a kid. Like, when you're playing a tournament as a kid That is the only thing that matters to you in your life. There's nothing. There's no taxes. Yeah. There's no— most of them, especially me, because I look like a loser. There's no girlfriend trouble. There's, there's no— there's— you're not thinking about anything other than the game. Yeah. Yeah. I think for the first time in a really long time, and I've played another tournament a year before where I kind of had the same feeling, it's just like, it like literally takes you back to like, like the base root of what it is to to feel something. It's so crazy. I mean, I think you know this, you know this feeling. I don't know if from like basketball or something, right? It's like being a part of something like that was a neighborhood tournament. But like, to me it was like it— I'm not trying to be funny, but it felt like the US Open. The simultaneously as it would feel like the US Open, it also— I was like, this is so crazy. I lose tomorrow, nothing changes. Like, I don't lose a brand deal. No, I don't lose a job, right? I don't lose my house.
Jason37:35Moment view
Like, nothing changes. I think there is something in that to be able to like to go back to your childhood like that and to be that— like, when we're focused on things, I read this thing, like, if you go— a lot of people, if they go like on vacation and they sit in a chair, they're like, they're more nervous. Your brain's actually more nervous just sitting there doing nothing. That's why people play golf.
David37:55Moment view
That's why people—
Jason37:56Moment view
oh, that's interesting. So I think when you're— when you can like glom onto something like that— oh, that's interesting— I think it, it gives you probably a focus, a purpose. It gives you everything that you need, and, uh, and that's why it's so important to you, I think. And you probably are getting crazy endorphins, um, and I can see why it would be important to you just to reactivate that in yourself and to have that be dormant for so long in your body and to be back out there like, this fucking matters. It's amazing.
David38:28Moment view
It's really funny, and everyone there is so passionate about it. Oh, everyone's so passionate. You should have been there yesterday. Yeah, really, everyone takes it really seriously.
Jason38:36Moment view
Was it louder yesterday? Because I felt like it was really quiet today.
David38:40Moment view
I would say the players were definitely quieter today than yesterday. Yesterday, like, I felt like you could feel the frustration, and then I couldn't hear you when I was asking you. Yesterday was different. Yesterday, because they were all four— the first day was all four teams were on one court and everyone got to play everybody. So everyone kind of— everyone was watching each other, and like, and then at the end, one team was rooting for us. Yeah, because if we beat that team, then they would finally get through, because like, because how the score worked. So it was like, oh, Everybody was there and everybody was paying attention to every game. It was very, very different. Have you learned anything, Jon? Yeah, next time I'm going to sponsor you. I give it to you. Show up to the games. Won't say anything about the outcomes. And we'll do it step by step. Yeah, it's just like— You know what? Matter of fact, let's just focus on the task at hand. The task, not motives. It's play by play. It's every point. It's like you're up. We're up 5-0, whatever it is in the set. To 6. Yeah, like it is not over. To me, that's already in the bag. Yeah, but to me, he's already in the bag. You do everything right the next time and they would be like, John, fucking say something. No, for sure. For sure. 100%. The worst, the worst is when it would like get like— John doesn't have a whispering voice. Yeah. So like when it gets, when it gets tight, that's obviously when people are actually paying attention and they're like curious. That's when John has to explain it to the person next to him. Yeah. So it's like the worst timing because like that's when I'm the most tense and I hear John the most.
Jason40:07Moment view
I was asking John questions through the whole thing and I couldn't hear fucking anything. Like, oh, you're right. He doesn't know how to whisper because there was no— there was no noise coming out of your mouth.
David40:16Moment view
Oh, no, I heard it all. Oh, you could hear John? Yeah, but I don't hear his words. I just hear like there's one syllable of every word that for some reason, like, you can't have the entire word be silenced.
Jason40:27Moment view
He has to—
David40:28Moment view
it's like, it's where are you? I'm just hearing like little Morse codes of his voice. And yeah, obviously like John does one thing and I miss a ball, I blame it on him 100%. 100%. I remember, um, when we went to New York, you had your pickleball, the singles tournament. Yeah, that one.
Jason40:49Moment view
That one, he would get mad at me.
David40:51Moment view
What would he get mad at you about? Because I would react to his points. What would you say? We'd just cheer him on. He would win a good point, we'd be like, yeah, let's go, Dan! And he'd be like, shut the fuck up, you whore! What are you doing? That's really funny. I mean, that's why I genuinely sucked at tennis. Yeah, I couldn't get through anything because I was just like so hyper-analyzing everybody that was watching. And it was only like 3 or 4 people watching at a time. Yeah. And if like, like my mom looked away for a second or my dad, points over, like I'm losing. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Or like, like, well, Alex, I don't— when during the pickleball tournament you would like walk around the court like you'd like take 3 steps to the left or right and I'd literally be like, stay fucking put. I have no— I have no chance. I'm just like the worst mental player. Wow. When it comes to like tennis is probably the most mental game. Yeah. Unfortunately I'm like the worst mental guy when it comes to racket sports. So I could never get it.
Jason41:51Moment view
What is it?
David41:51Moment view
It's just distracting.
Jason41:53Moment view
I don't know. You know, you know, that's like a theme with you. Like if Alex got up to go to the bathroom the other night, that upset you? No, no, yeah, if I, if I'm on, if we're doing the podcast and I'm like not looking at you, you get upset.
David42:04Moment view
It's really interesting. That's exactly why I couldn't be a tennis— it's, it's full-blown that. I genuinely think I could have gone pro. Yeah, if I didn't have like, like mental issues. No, I wasn't good enough to go pro, but like, yeah, um, that is a big part. Wow.
Jason42:18Moment view
Yeah, and that house was insane. Such a nice house.
David42:23Moment view
Oh my God. Last night or yesterday when we played, when I was playing my tournament, Woody Harrelson was watching, which is really— No way. Yeah, that was so crazy to me. Yeah, I was like, wow, that's the guy. I was a big— I tried. Oh, like, yo, if this guy came up to me right now and asked me 3 movies, I'd be like, fucked. I'm like, now you see me. Now you see me. Now you see me. The Japanese version where they look for nihao.
Jason42:49Moment view
Imagine if Woody Harrelson did just walk up to you and ask you that. Yeah.
David42:52Moment view
While David's playing. Every celebrity just tries to find John in the wild. Name 3 of my movies. That'd be so funny. So funny. Um, yeah, well, yeah, I'm bummed you came out to like the worst match.
Jason43:11Moment view
No, I had a blast. Drove over in the car. You don't understand what it's like to be me. Oh, like little things? Even just an outing is like It's like, you know, you go to the old folks home, you take your grandpa out. Well, I don't ever— he's just like loving looking out the window. Oh my God, you know what I mean?
David43:27Moment view
My bar is so low. I don't ever leave the house either, so that— I agree with you on there. Yeah, like, I— there's no reason for me to go anywhere in LA other than like if I'm going to dinner or to go out, which I don't really do that often, right? So like, it is nice to have like a daytime activity. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right guys, that's all the time we have for this podcast. Go check out Jason's daily vlogs. Go check out— just somebody Venmo John for the money he lost, please. And then go check out DJ Renfri's Beats music. Yeah, sick on SoundCloud. Let's go check it out. And my OnlyFans coming soon. Bye, guys.