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Like what? There's this guy named John Kiriakou. He sets all my For You pages. He's just like an ex-CIA agent that, um, is just telling you about the CIA on every single podcast, everywhere you go.
He's like a whistleblower?
Yeah. And he went to jail.
Oh, wow. And how is that allowed?
Well, someone made a good point, which was like, you know, you think he's telling secrets, but if he was really telling secrets, he would not be telling secrets.
But that's exactly that. Like, that's also like a point that people have used to oppose someone like a Bob Lazar. Yeah.
Like, if—