How I Lost My Virginity

What's up guys, welcome back to Views. Today is the couple month anniversary. I actually don't know how many months it's been, but what happened a couple months ago where Jon didn't know how to pronounce a certain word? I don't want to say the word in case it'll— do you know what I'm talking about, Jon?

Mm-hmm.

Was it, was it that you couldn't say the word? Or was it that you couldn't spell it? I just want to remember.

No, pronounce. He wasn't pronouncing it properly.

What was it, John?

Or if you were saying it to him.

Because someone texted it to me and someone DM'd it to me and they were like, you should do a reunion to see if John can do it.

I forget the word, though, so I don't remember exactly.

Oh, it's another word for scent.

Yeah, it's another word for perfume.

Yeah. And does he have to read it?

Yeah, he was reading it incorrectly.

Really?

Yes.

Okay.

Reading it incorrectly.

Well, what's the word, John?

It's fragrance.

What is it?

Fragrance.

Okay.

Very good, John. Very good.

Very good, John.

Not fragments.

I think John's getting smarter.

I do think John's getting smarter. Yeah. That's incredible.

Yeah. I've been spending a lot of time with John and he's evolving. Although I handed him, we were in a bookstore and I handed him a copy of Heated Rivalry and he didn't know what it was.

Justin got, Justin, the fuck was that? John got busted again the other day for, John gets himself into trouble because he'll like try to be really cheap.

Yeah.

But then someone will catch him on being my friend. So like, we, like, literally a couple days ago or a couple podcasts ago, we were talking about how in Disneyland he was like trying to like, anyway, make money off this guy by having him cut in line.

Yes.

And then the guy found out that he was my friend. Yeah. And then John felt really embarrassed. So John was just like, never mind, you could just cut in line or whatever. That was like the gist of the story.

Yeah, I remember.

So it happened again with him where he went to, he's a big fan of the Wallows.

Yeah.

And he went to go to the, they were like, you were walking by the place where they're having a show, right?

Yeah, I was driving by.

Driving by. Yeah, and then you're like, oh my god, they're there right now.

Yeah, cuz it just, you know, it's spelled out outside.

Yes. So then you pulled over and you tried getting in for free, or what was it?

No, it wasn't trying for free. They were just like— I was just— because I was hearing them play the song already outside. I'm like, I asked the security guy, I'm like, hey, how much can I give you just to get me in here? Because I just wanted— because you could listen from it from the outside. I just wanted to see them. Okay, and it's like, you know, it's like their show's about to end.

Is it a big venue?

No, it's a small one.

So you were like, you were asking a security guard, like, can I just slip you some money? Just you let me in.

Yeah.

Like, so not for the full, like, ticket price. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Because the tickets were sold out.

Right, right. And you thought maybe if you give them like $20, $30, you can at least, like, catch the end of it.

Yeah, exactly.

And you just coincidentally strolled up and saw that the Walls were playing there.

Yeah. I mean, like, yeah.

Did you drive up there for a reason for that?

No, no, no. I think I just—

Because that is actually one of your favorite bands.

Yeah.

And they were coincidentally playing as you drove by.

Yeah, it was insane. I was just like, I had dinner somewhere in West Hollywood.

Okay.

And you know, they were in town.

No, I had no idea. I don't— I don't—

Okay. So it was definitely worth you pulling over, trying to talk to them. Yeah. Okay. And then what happened?

And it was like— and it was just like, what's crazy is that that concert venue is like really intimate. It's the one where Scott— Scott played at.

Oh, okay. Like the Wilturn.

Yeah, I think so.

I don't know.

It's one of those, like, on Sunset. The Roxy.

Yeah, yeah, the Roxy.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. See, that's very intimate.

Yeah. And I was just like, dude, this is— this guy— this is like a calling.

Yeah, it was a calling.

Like, everything was, like, lining up for me. I just got out of dinner.

It says John Comedian.

Yeah, it was like a movie.

And then what happened?

That's where the movie ended.

Wait, but say what Julia said. Then there were two people that worked there that came out.

Yeah.

And they recognized John. Oh, you're David's friend, John. And then they were like, are you coming in? And John's like, oh, I can't because I don't have tickets. And then they were like, doesn't David know Dylan? Can't he just text him? And then John's like, fuck it, I'm leaving. John got embarrassed again. That's really funny. It was the second time that he's like tried to do something It's really funny.

It is really funny.

It's, it's, I love how, like how being friends with me is affecting him, affecting his way of life, affecting his way of like trying to sneak into places. It's really funny. I'm sorry for that, John.

It's fine.

Do you feel like you have to like, um, like you can't be, um, your regular self when people find out? Yeah.

No shot. They're gonna be like, who is this guy?

Wait, why? Why is that? Huh?

Yeah. Wait, why? I feel like that's why people like and know you from David's, cuz you're just yourself.

Did you see North West the other day was on TikTok and she was like, she like asked for, like, as a joke, she was like, send me gifts.

No, she was like, I want money.

Yeah.

Kim Kardashian was sitting off to the side and she's like, no, no, no, North, we don't do that. But it was really funny. That's really funny because it is a really normal thing to be on TikTok Live and be like, send me gifts. And like, good for North. She wants to earn her own money. Yeah. But Kim's like, no, no, no. Kim's like, that's not—

She'd kill it. We have enough.

What's something that you've gotten being David's friend? That's been great. You get the Tesla points. I know that, right?

Yeah. Yeah.

So when you buy a Tesla, right, you get Tesla points or something.

Yeah. Anytime anybody buys a Tesla.

Yes.

They have to go through Jon.

Yes.

Yeah.

Because Jon gets like free merchandise. So he'll get like a— I mean, how many people have ordered like Teslas under you?

I think almost 3 people. So I— but the thing is, last year it was almost 3. Well, yeah. Well, Almost 3 was supposed to be Alex, but Alex felt bad, so he used someone else's code. Because I'm like, Alex, you know who to give it to. Yeah, you know, because last year I balled out. I gave everyone Chargers, I gave everyone t-shirts.

My favorite is like when I'm at like— when we're either— we go to Menchie's or AMC. Oh yes, or something. I saw it on his face. We went to Menchie's the other day and the guy goes, your rewards points, or do you have a rewards member program with us? And I'm always like, no, like, because I want to just— I just want to leave. And you could just see John going, fuck, Dave wants to leave, but I need those points. Yeah, I need those points. Even if he does, do you have a Menchie's card? Yeah. Oh, you do?

Yeah.

Because even if he didn't have one, I'd sign up. Yeah.

I created an account.

Which makes sense. Yeah. It's like, and John's like, fuck, Dave's paying for 8 ice creams right now. Yeah.

I'm like, dude, the next one's got to be free.

This would go a long way with points. Do you think you could wait another 4 minutes so I could fill out this information?

I think maybe you're missing out on something in life a little bit. —with that, with rewards. Like, I go to CVS sometimes and it'll be like $80, and then Navina and I will play a game and we'll— she'll get it down to like $14.

I just really put like my number down, and I also don't like the time. Yeah, yeah. But it's kind of fun at Erewhon. This late— this lady— that's a good one. This— yeah, it is a good one. This lady and I have had like— when I used to go work out there at Equinox, it was— did you ever go with me? It was daily, daily. She was like, today's the day, right? Yeah. And I'm like, I don't think so.

Yeah, she wants you to sign up.

She's like, please just sign up and save so much. I'm like, I just, I re— I don't— I told her, I was like, at this point it's genuinely just a game me and you play, and I won't let you have me sign up. I mean, look, I just, I don't know why. And I knew Taylor had it. When Taylor goes and she signs up, yeah, but there was something about it that I was just like, I was like, I'm just not gonna do it. And it just became an ongoing thing when me and her would sign up. And then other people would ask me to sign up that would work there, and then I'd have to be like, no, no, like, if I'm signing up, it's with this woman because Me and her have like a thing with it.

No, also, if you— if— if— because this is on a views podcast. Yeah, if you have any friends and family discount you want to give me, just let me know.

Yeah, that'd be really nice.

Like, what do you mean?

Like, so like for—

for discount codes?

Yeah, for like if someone's listening to this and their dad like owns like Aeropostale or something. Aeropostale? Is that still a store?

I don't know. I mean, it must— I'm sure. Yeah, Aeropostale.

Is that how you pronounce it? Aeropostale.

Aeropostale.

What a reference.

What a fuck yes.

Is that even around anymore?

I don't know where I pulled that from.

Aeropostale was like an Abercrombie and Fitch, right?

But it was like a little— it was like a less cool version of Abercrombie and Fitch. It was like the more affordable— like you and I were wearing like— like you would wear Aeropostale and I would wear Abercrombie and Fitch.

I would not wear Aeropostale. Are you fucking nuts? No.

Yeah.

I was wearing Aeropostale.

What would I wear? I'd wear like—

Were clothes a thing to you as a kid, as a high schooler?

Is it high school or middle school?

No, I don't know. My shoes weren't even on brand. My shoes were like—

Oh, you're saying you couldn't afford Aeropostale? Fuck no.

You think my mom walked into any store in the mall and was like, I'm getting you a shirt? There's no fucking way. I think we did like, she did like Burlington Coat Factory when there was sales on the racks. And then, I mean, yeah, like, oh, Plato's Closet. Plato's Closet.

Plato's Closet.

Or like Marshalls or like a Goodwill. Salvation Army.

Goodwill's good.

Like thrifting. Like, yeah, any kind of thrifting is like where I get my clothes from. I remember my shoes were like, I think they're more on brand now, but at the time compared to the other kids, they were really fucking random. Do you remember Airwalks? No.

Yeah.

Do you remember Airwalks?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I remember they're like skater shoes. Skater shoes. When I was growing up, I think like skate— skater was like the cool vibe.

Yeah, yeah, for sure. I used to be a skater girl. I used to have my bangs used to start from the left side of my forehead and swoop down. No, past my eyes to the right side. Whoa. And I used to wear like DC and Etnies.

DC were so big. So big. And if you could pull them off, you're fucking cool. And obviously skin-tight jeans were like the biggest thing. And then Ryan Sheckler, which is like a hot skateboarder, was in like the locker of like 5 different girls. Yeah, that was really hot. Texting on your Sidekick was a big thing.

You decorate your locker?

No, I did. I didn't have— what did you have in your locker?

I had like a little whiteboard that people could like write on, you know, like when my friends would stop by my locker.

That's such a power.

I had a disco ball on the top of my locker.

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What do you mean? Like, it's—

I feel like I never actually— huh? Weren't you with him? No, no.

John, like, really, like, kept to himself in school.

Like, in school, I feel like I don't even— I don't think he even saw you. We never— we didn't have a class till college. Yeah, yeah. But what were you like in high school?

What do you mean?

John, you just—

what do you mean? What type of person were you in high school?

I don't know, normal.

I don't know. Yeah, but like, who would you hang out with? What would you do?

Oh yeah, oh yeah, your question. Yeah, okay, yeah, I'd hang out with like, you know, like, like Wasim type vibes, you know. Wasim?

Yeah, that's, that's, you have to, even though his name does do a lot of the heavy lifting, you need to describe what kind of a person Wasim was.

He's just like, just like nerdy, just like, he just was a stick to her, you know.

It's like, or, or another guy would be like a Frozz. Yeah, Frozz. Yeah, like really into Yeah, yeah, okay, so—

Really into technology and stuff. Very niche. Very niche.

Wasim Afroz. Wasim once told me that his dad owned Walmart. And my dad would make like a big joke. I don't know if it was Wasim or if it was another kid, but my dad would always be like, that's the guy whose parents own Walmart? And it was like an ongoing joke for so long. Afroz was this kid in our school. Sorry, Afroz, I don't want to get you in trouble, but he would jailbreak everybody's phone. Yeah. Or jailbreak everybody's iPod. Do you know what jailbreaking is, Shane?

No, what does that mean?

It's like when you like take— so he'd take your iPod Touch, completely hack the interface. Yeah. So it was like no longer really Apple, but you'd have all the apps that allow you to get free movies, free music, everything, which is fucking insane as a kid. Like that, like no kid's paying $10 for a movie, right? On Apple Music.

Any movie on iTunes? Any movie.

Even movies that are in theaters. Wow. Right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

You're like, might not be the best quality. Yeah.

You watch them. They're recorded on—

Oh, you got them off like LimeWire.

Yes, it was exactly like LimeWire, but it was like its own versions of whatever was on the phone. I remember I was watching movies recorded on a camcorder, and I remember that was very, very normal for me. Instead of going to the movie theater, you'd record, you'd watch somebody recording a movie, straight up pirated in the most lowest form of it.

You used to be able to buy those in Times Square in New York City. Really? It would be a movie that was in the theater and it would be on DVD right there and you could buy it and watch it.

And it was somebody recording it?

Yeah, someone just going in with a camcorder and record it for 2 hours.

Would you ever buy those? No, no, that's crazy.

Wow, I didn't.

So, okay, so what kind of— what else were you like in high school?

Um, in high school? Yes, John. Um, just trying to figure out, because I remembered once I, I was like junior year, I think I was lucky enough to have a car, one of the '95s, Honda Civic.

Oh, you're like one of the first to have a car?

Yeah, so I just go home sometimes.

Well, what do you mean, like during school? During lunchtime.

Sorry, I would just think of lunchtime. So like, you know, but school, like school, I don't know, I'm— because I'm not really hanging out with anyone if I'm going to class to class.

Yeah, John, like, John would leave the class, like he'd go straight from class to class, like sit there and wait early. Like he was that kid.

How do you know that?

He wouldn't like mingle in the hallways.

Are you just like assuming that, or do you actually know this?

No, that's what I would do.

No, I just know John.

It's a funny move. Go and wait, the teacher's not even there yet.

Yeah, like I just—

why wouldn't you mingle? Me?

Like too anxiety, like too, like too, it's too much, overstimulating. Yeah.

Were you picked on? No.

Oh, that's what I said, like, like that cliché thing of like being bullied. I like, I'm, I was never bullied in high school. I feel like I should have, but I know I never did. It was just literally David, dude.

Didn't get bullied until he moved here.

My bully was the biggest pussy too.

It was David. Uh, the best was like Like if you were friends with someone that recently was like on crutches or they like rolled their ankle. Oh yeah. That was like so good in high school. Yeah. So like, why?

Because you could just like roll up to class with them late. So yeah. Like, oh, it took her so long to get up the stairs. We're so sorry.

And you leave class early.

You raise your hand.

You go, I'm going to help this person with their books. And you leave class like a full 5 minutes early. There's nobody in the halls and it's just you two.

Like, I forgot about that. Yeah.

That is the best. We're always— Alex was on crutches for like, what, 2 years? Yeah, yeah. So Alex, Alex and I fucking ran that shit in the hallway 5 minutes before class.

You ever find out about a speaker that you didn't know about, 7th period in school? You're like, fuck, this day's so long. And then all of a sudden they're like, oh yeah, so-and-so from the New England Patriots is talking for the last hour. You never had that? No, they never brought like school speakers in. Fuck no. Oh, you never had that? No, we would always have school speakers come in and the entire school would go to the gym.

No, that's like a big city thing.

Yeah, I grew up in a town like yours.

But you grew up like East Coast, like Boston, no?

Yeah, but we weren't in the city of Boston. We were in a suburb. You never had a— they never brought a speaker into—

we've had like the firefighters. Really? Like they were teaching foods, like don't do this to burn your food. The only thing we had is like BMXer. Like one BMXer would come and there would be like one ramp. And he'd have like pegs on his bike and he'd like spin around. Like, I feel like that's like— that was like a middle school thing. Other than that, and then maybe we'd have like somebody that is really good with Slinkys, but like it was all very like random like that, right? Yeah.

I mean, nobody that I would remember really that wasn't like a part of like local.

When'd you lose your virginity?

Oh, good question.

18, 19, 19. Who did you lose it to? 19.

Really? Yeah. Damn, John, you were getting it at 19.

Natalie, you come off so mean.

Well, I knew—

coming from a girl, that is so— that's so cutting. Damn, John.

I knew John at 19. I mean, he wouldn't leave his house. How the fuck did you find somebody?

Were they related to you? All right, no, come on, John. Fuck it. Where did it happen? Huh? It was your girlfriend at the time? Yeah.

Um, why are you like being sus about it?

Why are you being so weird?

I'm not being weird about it. I just don't like about my—

like, where were you? Were you on Epstein's island, you fucking weirdo? Yeah.

Where did you lose your virginity?

What's going on? That would explain so much. It's like, oh, he got fucking brainwashed when he was there. Shot in the emails. Meet me here. Where? Here. Where?

Wasim can hack your iPhone. Frost is going to hack your iPod.

Frost is on Epstein's Island hacking iPhones. God. All right, where was it, John? South Carolina.

Oh, shit.

Damn.

Goddamn, you had to go far for it. I know. Okay, hold on. Timeout. Wait, wait, wait.

This is why I didn't want to open up this conversation.

Wait, where did you meet the girl? This is so interesting. No. Okay, where did you meet her?

It was Angie.

We know that, dude.

John, this is a podcast, bro. I know who she is. We're telling a story. John's like, why are you asking me? You already know.

You're holding a microphone for a reason.

Okay, where did you meet her? Instagram. Remember?

It was like one of the earliest DMs ever. What?

Like you DM'd her or she DM'd you?

Come fuck me in South Carolina. Instagram was trying it out. Okay, timeout.

So wait, she DM'd you or you DM'd her? DM'd her. Okay. Where did you find her? On Instagram?

I don't know. Online, dude.

But like, it was an explore page. What was it?

It was like an explore page.

And you fuck. And she was already living in South Carolina or no?

No, she was here. She was visiting here, I think, at some point. Chicago.

Mm-hmm. Okay. And then you DM'd her.

I don't like talking about my fucking sexual relationships with you guys. It's the worst when it comes to me, man. Like, I understand.

No one's asking, like, what hole you put your penis in.

I can't do that, dude.

We're just saying.

I can't do that. I'm just a closed person when it comes to that thing.

Okay, fair enough.

It's just like, I hate— you're gonna have to pull teeth. I'm like, it's not gonna be a good podcast, dude.

I promise you.

How'd you end up in South Carolina?

That's all I want to know. I mean, I don't need to know any of the details. Can you just explain to me? You saw a pretty girl. Yeah. Then you DM'd her. Yes. And then you're like, I'm flying out to South Carolina.

No, no, no. Just talk.

For a while, right? Okay, I do remember this. Yes. And then you're like, come— and she was like, come meet me. Yeah, right. Okay, I'm— this is— okay, this is coming back.

Okay, I remember we all thought it was not real, right?

We thought he was gonna catch us.

You all thought it was—

yeah, and we thought that he was being catfished.

Yeah, this is a really interesting story. Timeout. Yeah, wait, wait, this is so interesting.

It's so interesting.

Okay, doesn't have to get sexual, just explain this.

What is this?

So how long were you talking to her for?

Like all of, like, senior year of high school.

Okay, so you talked to her for a full— you talked to her for a full year before you met her? Yes.

Did you guys, like, ever FaceTime?

You didn't meet her on Instagram. You met her on a video game.

Yeah, I thought it was a video game.

Oh, dude, you guys made fun of me that you thought I met her in a video game. And I said, no, not really. But I just went along with it because, like, nothing changes your fucking mind, dude. Okay, words. What's David? Think of high school, not college.

Okay, okay, high school. But I'm trying to think, like, you could Instagram DM people in high school.

Did you fly to South Carolina to meet her?

Yeah, I did. I had to ask my mom.

How old were you? 17, 18, 19? You asked your mom and your mom was like, you're meeting this person? And then this girl that you were talking to picked you up? Yeah.

Wait, sorry, and had you—

had you guys stopped talking? Like, this is like an investigation.

It feels like an investigation every time, dude. Every time.

Every time. What? Every time I listen to this, it's the first time I've ever heard The story, dude, the story in parts, multiple times throughout the years.

Okay, you want us to piece it together from memory? Yeah, honestly, just tell us how you met this girl. This is so interesting. What's the big deal?

Wait, no, sorry, did you guys like FaceTime or like have any sort of like video? Like, were you confirmed that she was not a catfish? Like, how did that go down?

Yeah, I mean, I think Snapchat was a thing.

Yeah, Snap was a thing.

Yeah, so you would see her face?

Yeah, of course.

Yeah, so you asked your mom, can I go to South Carolina and see this girl? Yeah, you got a ticket, you went on a plane, Yeah. Your friend dropped you at the airport. Atlanta. You grabbed condoms when you got there.

Excuse me, you went to Atlanta? No, sorry.

No, no, it was, it was, it was, um, Greenville. Okay. South Carolina.

Atlanta.

Oh, where MrBeast is from. Yeah. Oh, interesting. I know.

Jimmy was there too.

Wait, Greenville's not where you landed, right?

This man is trying to lose his virginity.

Is there an airport there too?

No, I think you're thinking of Asheville. Greenville's in South Carolina, no? Yeah. Greenville, South Carolina. Yeah, Jimmy's in North Carolina.

This is like an interrogation. Jesus Christ.

You want a cup of water? Like, so weird.

Do you want water or cigarette?

Now listen, John, we know this went down. We can do this, you know, the easy way or the hard way.

I know, I know, I know.

You be good cop. All right, okay, all right.

I'll be good cop. I'll be good cop. I'll be bad cop. Go.

Listen, John, it's, uh, people, people go to North Carolina, South Carolina, people go all over the world to meet people, and that's very, very normal. I remember I was in a relationship for a while. I didn't meet— tell us what happened South Carolina. Was, was the team there or not?

Was that there?

Where was the froz?

Where was froz? And so you made love and then that was it? Yeah.

All right.

Um, you went there, you spent like the weekend, or—

Yeah, how long did it last? The weekend?

A minute maybe max, you know.

How did it— Did you know like when you were going there, like, okay, I'm gonna probably have sex for the first time? Like, was that like— No.

Yeah.

No.

Or did it happen unexpectedly once you got there? No. Because you guys hadn't even kissed yet, right? That's the first time you see each other in person.

When did you kiss her? Right at the airport?

I don't know. I felt like she had work and I just remembered like my first time being there, we were at this house. I think it was her friend's house.

Who took you to the airport? She did.

Wow.

You stay in a hotel?

No, we stayed at her friend's house. It was hers because she had work. Okay, sorry, I'm derailing. Wow.

You didn't even stay at her parents' house or her house. You sneaky sneaky'd at the friend's house.

Did her parents know you were there?

At this point, no.

Whoa, did the— so the friend's house you were staying at, did those parents like— or were you just a random man that was staying there?

Random man staying at her, and they were just fine with it? They're like, it was her best friend's house.

Have Taylor get this guy a Dr Pepper.

Yeah, if my best friend just brought a guy over to stay at my home for the weekend—

wait, that's crazy, you stayed at her best friend's place? Yeah.

Damn, this guy was desperate for some pussy.

Wait, why are you being so mean?

Yeah, now what the fuck?

I don't want to be, but I'm just being funny. She's just being funny, but she does come off as—

because she's a girl. Because she's a girl attacking John. Yeah, it's so funny because you just like finally got this story out of him and you just turn to me and you go, damn, this guy is a desperate loser. It's been so hard to get this out of him.

And you're just like, you want a soda? I had to go to a restaurant, make a video for InKind, so I was like, I'm like, okay, I go, I love it. It's so fun. We're going to a restaurant and Naveen's like, you got to take the light out. You got to take the light out. And I'm like, I don't want to take the light out in here. Like, I don't want to be the guy filming a video with a big light.

Oh, you went to— you— oh, you had to make a video for the restaurant? Yeah.

So I go into the restaurant and I'm like, they're so nice. And I'm like, I'm going to make a video. And they were like, oh, amazing. We'll bring you some extra stuff. Everything's going so well. We've got this big light and like, there's no one behind us. So the light is on, it's just a phone light, you know, it's not like a big—

Oh, okay, okay.

But I mean, do you find that annoying if you see somebody with a light in a restaurant?

I don't personally because I know, like, I get it.

Right, do you find it annoying though?

But I know a lot of people do.

A lot of people do, and in LA it's pretty common. Yeah. Right?

It's different when you're like, are you doing like a quick flash photo?

No, we're doing like, it's something like—

We're doing like a 30-minute—

No, not a 30-minute, we're doing like It's on for like, you know, 3 or 4 minutes.

Yeah, that's, that's pretty crazy.

That's pretty a lot.

That's a lot.

That's a lot.

That's a lot.

I mean, I would— sure.

Okay, fine.

Obviously, if I was there, I'd probably kill myself on the spot. No, no, but like, but like, I would genuinely like— it would send me into a big panic.

You'd be pissed. You're not being filmed.

Well, he would just be uncomfortable.

The second you turn on the flash, I'd be sweating. And then if it goes any longer than 10 seconds, I'd be like, Jay, please.

Oh, if you were there with me, I would never turn it on. Okay, I would have never— if you were there, I'd have been like, okay, I have been with—

I have been with people at dinner where like, yeah, and what do you say? Uh, nothing, because no one's ever done what he just did. No one's ever done like 3.

I was gonna say, what I told the guy, I was like, we're gonna shoot.

He's like, yeah, yeah, do whatever you want. And I was like, all right.

It's just tough because a lot of people like— it's just tough being an influencer and like, I know, putting that onto other people is like weird.

Yeah, there's no one behind us.

No, no, I get that.

We're on a wall.

Yeah, but it's just like, it's like we're not like you're shooting anybody. Like your booth is like glowing. In the—

I said what?

Not your booth is like glowing, you know. It's cool.

It's in the wild, you know how icky that is.

I know, it's gross. It's like, it's like, I get my shot.

No, I get it, but why don't you like take it outside?

Because we wanted to show all the food and— right, okay. And like make it like cool. So anyways, this guy comes over, he just goes, can you just stop? Oh, can you just stop? Wow, like that. And I go, oh, oh, I'm so sorry. I go— and I was like, I was sincere. I was like, I'm so sorry, we were just trying to get this one shot. I'm so sorry, we'll turn it off. He's like, yeah, yeah, turn it off. And I said, I, I don't know where you came from. I didn't know it was bothering you. And he goes, it was bothering me. Can you just stop? Damn, just stop, please. That's enough. That's enough. Like that. And I was like Okay. Was it a—

did you sit in silence for the rest of the dinner?

Was it a nice restaurant?

Yeah, it was like a fun restaurant.

Fun or nice? No, fun.

Fun. It wasn't like, it wasn't like, it wasn't like snooty at all. Okay.

Okay. Yeah. I mean, yeah, you're definitely in the wrong, but like also like that guy shouldn't have come at you like that.

All he could have said was, hey, can you just turn the light down? And I'd be like, oh yeah, sure. Of course.

Were there other people in front of you? Um, was the restaurant full?

No, not at all.

No, this has happened to me before, something similar. What happened?

I was shooting, and I also cleared it with them.

No, no, no, I know, I know.

You know, I was like, I'm gonna shoot this thing really quick, and they're like, okay, great. Yeah, and they brought over like extra food. They were like, yeah, let's do it. And then I talked to the maître d', and I was like, I'm really sorry.

He's like, I don't worry about it. There was this hotel. There's a hotel in West Hollywood where we had— we had a Doughbakes pop-up there for a little bit. Yeah. And so I wanted to shoot like some— they had a really pretty bar area and I wanted to shoot some like L.A. Day content with like some new clothes that we were dropping or whatever. And they're like, yeah, of course, come by, whatever. We'd love it. Come in the morning time because nobody's there. It's the bar, right? But there was this couple, this like older couple, probably like 50, 60. Yeah. That was sitting at the bar and I was like over at the corner, like the far edge with my sister because just like us, like two 2 girls just snapping some pictures, not even doing flash or anything crazy. But we were there for like 15, 20 minutes, and this guy was just like, seriously, do you think you got the shot yet? He's not even in it. Like, he's at the other side of the bar with his wife, and I— and it's like 10 o'clock in the morning. And I was like, I was like, oh, uh, or is like this okay? Like, are we bothering you or whatever? And he was like, yeah, doll, you think you got the photo? Like, just giving me so much— he was being much nastier than this. Sure. And then I felt so uncomfortable, obviously, that I just like walked away and left and like didn't get anything.

Yeah, never go back to the restaurant again.

No, it was so embarrassing.

I probably wouldn't even go back to that part of town.

Yeah, I mean, it was just— it's just funny, like he was on such a high horse because he was like, like, I'm just this idiot girl taking photos, even though like the hotel had invited me to do this thing, you know, whatever.

Does anything like that happen to me that you remember of, like when I was like filming or doing something? Like, I'm sure, I'm sure it's had to have happened, but just Sure, when I knocked down the— Oh, at the movie theater?

The movie theater, I knocked down the railings. You got so mad.

Yeah, that made it in the vlog, right?

I don't think so.

I don't know.

Maybe it did. Jason was like, turn the camera on, turn the camera on. And he like fell over a bunch of like ropes, red velvet ropes and made a big noise. That was almost fine because the way you did it, it's like if like Zane did it, I would have lost my shit. But you're so old. Well, there's no way anybody thinks that that's like a guy being a douchebag. Everyone was like, everyone was like, is he fucking okay? So like, you got away with it, which is really funny. That's funny.

I can't recall anything.

Jay, you're going to be 90 soon. I know. And like, what?

Well, he still has the other half of his life before he gets to 90.

No, I know. I'm just saying. But you're going to be like really visibly old soon. Yeah.

Yeah.

Where it'll actually be in your benefit.

I used to make this joke all the time. What? That saying like, when I'm 80, it'll be so good. Yeah. Yeah.

Because people will be— everyone will be on your side. Yeah. Like people will shoot you from across the way and they'll be like, look how cute this guy is recording his food. Do you know what I mean?

Oh my God. That is a really funny point.

Right now you're like in this like really weird spot. It's like very awkward and like you shouldn't be influencing.

I have a bean with me. Yeah.

But when you're 80, you have no But when you're like 80 or 90, you're gonna fucking rake it in.

I can't wait. I hope I live that long.

You should try aging yourself right now. Just like getting up.

I thought about doing old man prosthetic here.

That's really funny.

Did I hear this right?

Tesla's taking all Model Xs down?

No, you won't be able to drive a Tesla in like 3 years because they're all gonna be themselves. They'll all be self-driving.

Oh, did you hear that?

That just feels like a Or like they want to take down like Waymo or something?

No, just like when you buy a Tesla, you won't be able to drive it.

Oh, like steering wheels?

There won't be a steering wheel.

Yeah, you know, they're taking down the Model X. That— oh, they are? Yeah.

Why?

And the Model S. Or this Model S, you can't buy it anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's just a Model 3.

3 and Y.

3 and Y, that's it.

Cybertruck, they're discontinuing it. Yeah. Wow. That could also mean that they're coming out maybe a new X in like 2, 3 years when it's more convenient for them.

But yeah, did you watch the Grammys? You didn't watch them? No.

Really?

Yes.

Dude, Natalie ignored me all day.

Yeah, I did. What happened all weekend? I kind of ignored you.

Why do you do that? You're so mean. It's like, actually feels mean.

Read the text. It's not mean, it's because you just don't leave me alone.

Because I want to hang out and go out, but you do it in such a mean way.

No, because if I don't just literally point-blank stop and ignore you and stop responding, you will just, you will just keep calling and keep texting. So I And then Alex are always down to make plans, especially like, it's like John and Alex should have like zero responsibility in comparison to me. I'm sorry.

What are you doing on the weekend? Never calls me. Shut up, Jay. What up? What are you doing on the weekend?

Preparing for the week. Honestly, that's what I was doing.

No, you were with your fucking friend Sammy Pepper.

I did go to Malibu this weekend.

Oh my God, dude. Oh my God. Okay, let me tell you the story. Guess what? Had to go to the dermatologist again. Checking the asshole. Whatever, who cares.

Oh, you got a tickle in your booty?

No, the cyst. Oh, the cyst, yeah.

I like to keep—

Ugh, don't say that word.

Your pilonidal cyst.

Sorry, it just acted up. It's all good now.

I told you to shave it, man.

I think I overreact. Anyway, I obviously overreacted. Went to the dermatologist once again. There was a young girl in there. Yeah.

Checking your—

About 21.

Like the physician's assistant where they say, you know, whatever.

Yeah, and then he asked me in front of her, he's like, like, hey, like, do you mind if she's in here? And I'm like, I don't mind, even though I mind tremendously. Like, that's all I'm thinking about. I have an hour drive there, so it's like all I'm thinking about is like, please just have— just— I just want the guy in here. Just me and the guy, please, please. And then I finally get there and she comes in. I'm like, I can't fucking— I can't take my pants off in front of this. Anyway, so, so you say yes, huh? You go, sure. Yeah, I go, yes. Why? I go, yeah, I don't mind. And then I go— and then I make up something. I was like, just in Australia, Got really skin burnt, sunburnt. Want to make sure I don't have cancer. So whatever. He's like, okay, take your shirt off, whatever. So I'm taking my shirt off, which I'm already uncomfortable. I'm like, fuck, I should have made up something else. Yeah. So like, I would take my clothes off so stupid so he could check to see if I've gotten any like sun cancer spots. And he's like, you're all good. And he prescribed me something for like $300 to like put on my burns. Yeah. So just completely pivoted. And then I called Natalie and I was like, Natalie, you never had your butt checked? No, never.

David, why don't you say to them, I mind, yes.

Or just like let them leave and then be like, hey, can I talk to just the doc? Can the doctor just come back in here?

And then I had— and then I called Natalie and I was like, hey, so like I talked to the guy going in there for my cyst, whatever, but I gave her the full story. And then I didn't know I was on speaker. Sorry. And her friend Sammy goes, what is he talking about? And Natalie goes, he has a cyst in his ass.

And she goes—

her friend goes, And I go, really funny, Sammy, what the fuck? And she's like, I'm so sorry.

She like totally didn't know.

It was like the little point I was trying to get across to Natalie happened. Yeah.

So you drove an hour and didn't get it checked out?

I got it, I got it, I got it, I got it. I figured it out. Okay. Yeah, so I'm good now. But yeah, so that's, so that's what Natalie was doing all week, just hanging out with Sammy, completely ignoring me. I really wanted to go out, and Natalie's my only going out buddy, unfortunately. Only one. It's so annoying. It's John. Like, John's not like the going out type. Yeah, like, what is he gonna do? He's not gonna like drink with me. No. And then like Alex and I, it's like, that doesn't make sense. Ilya refuses to go out. Zane like doesn't really go out that much. Like, it's Natalie. Natalie's the one. Yeah.

So you had Grammy parties to go to and you didn't go?

No, no, I didn't really have anywhere to go. I was just like, I was just like like, the city's on fire, let's go. And yeah, I don't even think there— I went out Friday and Saturday, like the nights before the Grammys. I think I went to like 4 different places on Saturday. Everything was just like so fucking packed. I went inside for like 5 minutes to one place and I was like, I gotta get the fuck out of here. And then I went into another place for like, I don't know, 10 minutes. I was like, I gotta fucking leave. It was just like— it was— there was a lot of people out. Really? A lot of people out. Yeah, but other than that—

Did you watch the Grammys? No doubt. Yeah, yeah, so good. Alex Warren was crazy.

I think they should have kept the artist, the new artist, till the end.

No, you can't do that. Yeah, really?

Yeah, cuz I think, I think you can't do that normally, but I think those guys have the most pull. Like, I think most people are watching for Addison, Alex Warren, Cat's Eye, sure, Lola, um, Sombra. I think more— I, I think they dedicated a half hour show to them. Yes, but I think everyone's tuning in for those people.

Oh yeah, the kids are. Yeah, yeah.

I don't know, I just— okay, maybe, maybe I'm like— but I have never felt so connected to a Grammys It was crazy. I was excited to watch this one. Yeah, because these people grew up on the same platforms.

They were both in the Hype House.

That's so crazy.

Yeah, no, that is crazy. This is the first—

Alex crushed it.

What I liked about Alex was he just went out there and there was no frills about it. It was just him and his voice, and then he was flying in the air.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't believe you didn't watch it.

I can't believe I didn't watch it either. It's like I'm so an award show girl. Yeah, it's like the first one I probably haven't watched in like 20 years.

Olivia Dean though, like, um, no questions asked, number one.

You like her?

That's who Charlie likes. Yeah, she's, she's generational.

Yeah, she's generational. Fuck yeah. I thought that Lola Young was better than—

I thought Lola Young's incredible. Somber. No, they're all incredible. Lola Young did knock my socks off when I was watching. I was like, what the fuck?

But that's the first time I ever even heard it.

I was like, this is insane. Um, but Olivia Dean is like I want to go sit down somewhere and watch her sing. Oh yeah, yeah, like it's just like, wait, what?

You should go.

I'm just like, go to her concert.

Oh no, I mean like, I like, it's like giving like, it's, she just gives like such jazz bar like fun performance. Like, yeah, I'm not gonna go, like, but I'd like, no, but like I'm comparing it, like if I was like, if I want to go for drinks, sure, in the most magical place I can, I can conjure up in my head, yeah, it'd be Olivia Dean with like a cigarette and like 5 beers, a bucket of beers. Sure.

Bucket of beers. Smalls Jazz Club, New York City.

I think it'd be so cool. No, I think they all crushed it. Yeah. And then, uh, what, do you have any other gripes with the— with the—

I just love— I just love the Grammys because the interviews are so interesting before. Like, actors give very, like, staged answers to stuff, but like, Will.i.am was fucking just going off.

What was he saying? Really?

He's just like—

he's just like, and here he is, Will.i.am from Black Eyed Peas. And he's like, and like, what are you— what are you excited about tonight? And he goes, he goes, well, I'm just excited. This is going to be the last Grammys with humans. He's like, everyone's like, okay, um, and what do you mean by that? And he's like, he's like, well, AI music is coming, and you know, I wanted to come down here to see humans for the last time before AI takes over. Wow. It was like, it was, it was awesome. Then like Chaka Khan was up there, and it's like when you get like a Sabrina Carpenter, she'll give you a normal answer, like like, I'm so happy to be here, very grateful, you know. But then when you get the older stars, the ones that have been famous for like 40 years, they're just like on another planet. It's so fucking great.

That's really funny.

Yeah, the Grammys too is like— I just think, like you're saying, like artists versus like actors. Yeah, or musicians, sorry. I feel like musicians, that like the style on the carpet too, like the Grammys carpet is always really interesting. Like people just— it's like Chapo Guzmán with the nipple ring dress and like, you know, who was the guy in the mask with Oh, a DJ. I just— They created a song together this year.

I just think Grammys, like, I don't know, I'm just like so much— I'm 10 times more impressed by musicians than I am actors. Yeah? I like fangirl over actors more, but I'm impressed by musicians more. If that makes sense.

Actors are doing more with less.

Actors are doing less, you were saying? What does that mean?

Well, I think actors do more with less. Whereas a musician can do— they can do anything. They can— they have so much behind them. They have drums, they have production, they have dance. But an actor just has a part. Yeah. And they've got to be that part, and that's it. I agree. What do you think of breastfeeding in public? What? What do you think of breastfeeding in public?

Um, are you sure it'd be allowed?

I mean, I know it should be allowed, and I don't have a problem with it, but it's just like I'm always I wish like— I'm always like, lock my eyes too long. 100%. You know, you're like, you're like, obviously, like, obviously should be allowed.

It's like the most like natural thing.

And when I say too long, I wish people had like breastfeeding hats.

Yeah, like some sort of like scarf or like something like a blanket.

No, no, I'm saying like even just a hat on their head that said like that. It's like, don't look here because you'll probably double take because my, my boobie is out right now.

Oh, that's good. Yeah, let's draw draw— let's draw less attention to ourselves. Yeah, let's put a big hat.

Well, no, but if I saw— if I saw like a red breastfeeding hat, I'd be like, that's a breastfeeding hat, her tits probably out, I'm not looking. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.

I think more people would look.

But like sometimes when you walk around in New York and you're on a park bench and you see— you see a boobie out, you go, that was— was that a— oh my God, that was a boob. I don't know.

No, I just think it's like— no, I think it's like a beacon for perverts to just stare at a woman breastfeeding.

Yeah, when you're putting in— maybe wants to get braces. I was like, no, you can't get braces.

Oh my God, she has—

she has like— her tooth is like a little crooked here, so she's supposed to wear this thing at night. She doesn't wear it.

Your wife, who already looks 20, 30 years younger than you, wants to get braces? That's fucking Charlie's School wild. Is she being serious?

I mean, I feel like if I wasn't around, she would do it just for 6 months or a tooth or two. Like Invisalign? Um, yeah, maybe she could do Invisalign.

Yeah, she should just do it.

Oh yeah, but no, but I mean, wouldn't— aren't braces better?

It's like faster, I think. Yeah, yeah. No, Invisalign's great if you actually— you have to wear it every day, all day, you know?

No, these are like permanent.

No, I know, I know, that's why it's better.

That's what Invisalign— Invisalign you take out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought that was really funny. Hey, you ever, you ever go and you see a dog and you go, is he friendly?

And the person goes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Does it happen to you?

Yeah, it happened to me the other day.

What'd you, what'd you do? I was like, whoa, wait a minute, that's really funny.

Let's, let's, let's talk a little bit.

What do you mean? Yeah.

Sort of. Am I missing something?

I mean, I think so. Yeah. What? That's really funny. Really funny.

Like, will it bite me or not? Shit.

Do you see Netflix is going vertical?

Uh, what does that even mean?

Yeah, what does that mean? Means you'll be able to go on Netflix just like TikTok. It'll work just like TikTok. There'll be a vertical section just like YouTube Shorts.

What are you talking— like, and it's shot on like high definition?

Yeah, maybe it'll be clipped down. Maybe, maybe it'll be clips of their shows or maybe it'll be its own You know, like, that's a big thing now. Vertical series are big.

Oh, like the Chinese? Yes.

Yeah, like the Chinese.

Yeah, like, you know how, like, what is it? What is it?

They're like vertical dramas are really big in China and they made their way here. Really? Yeah, huge industry. And a lot of actors in LA are going to do these.

Yeah, I know actors too. There are a lot of actors that are gonna make a lot of money.

A lot of Kim Kardashian's doing a vertical series. What? Yeah, it's like, it's like the episodes are like, you know, 1 minute long. What?

Yes.

And what is it? Like, what's the show?

I'm not sure what her specific series is.

Are they all like, um, are they all— they're all like really addictive, right? Yeah, yeah, but they're all— but they're not actually good.

They're the ones that have like—

are they supposed to be cheesy?

Yeah, so far they've been really cheesy, but I'm sure they'll get better. But like a lot of actors in LA, they don't have like work right now.

Wait, correct me if I'm wrong, but it'll be like— it'll be like Natalie bent over in one and then me behind her and I'll be like and she'll be like, are you rock hard right now? And then— I'm gonna have to correct you. No, no, hold on. And then the story starts from there, am I right?

Yes, yes, I've signed up for one, but instead of like English, it's like Chinese.

No, no, they start— the first second of them is always something super, super hooky, super sexy. I see. And sexual. So it'll be like a girl being like, uh-huh, and but like the moan will have nothing to do with what's going on.

Oh, that's funny.

But it'll like hook you. Like, what, is she getting fucked right now? Like, that's what you'll think. Yeah. And then it's not that at all. Yeah, I see. Okay, are they all like that? Uh, I don't know, I haven't seen too many of them, but because they're all like— I've seen another one that's like, that's like, you— if, if my son marries you, you can't have all the money. Yes, like one of those. Yeah, and then you're like, fuck, I gotta watch this. I watched one for like 8 minutes.

Dude, I bought the membership because I saw that. Really? Yeah, I just wanted to see the ending because I was like, I was so hooked, I was like, I have to I woke up at like 9 AM. That's crazy.

I—

dude, I know, I know.

Out of all people, they got you.

I know, bro. But it was like a re— it was like one of my like really—

I don't know, what was it? Yeah, what was the premise of your— it— mine was like called micro dramas. Yeah, yeah.

Mine was pretty much this, uh, Chinese guy and his whole life he didn't know that he was rich because he had these like expensive like spoons and everything. And so his friend comes over and he's eating, like, you're so poor. But then they picked up the chopsticks and like, wait, this is diamond chopsticks.

That got me. It's exactly how they are, like, all of them, dude. Yeah, like, like, another one is like the guy is trying to marry this woman who like the parents don't want her to marry him because they think he's broke, but really he's the CEO of the company that is actually gonna buy the parent company. Love that plot. Yeah, like, I love that. All— it's all— it's really crazy. Yes, they are really addicting, but they're very like Hallmark-y. Yes.

Yeah, I don't know, budget's very low.

The budget's very low, but I think the watch time is just fucking insane for those. It's crazy. Yeah. Okay, that's interesting. So Netflix maybe is gonna go into that.

Well, they're doing vertical. I don't know if they're doing microdramas, but yeah. But I hate that. I don't like when I open Netflix now and it's podcasts.

Oh, I actually think it's genius. And I'm a podcast hater. I'm your number one podcast hater. Yeah. But like, I think I think putting podcasts on Netflix is so good. Why? Because like, just in the way. It's not in the way because like so many times I turn on Netflix because I just want sound. Yeah. And like, imagine if I, imagine if I was like a person that liked cooking and I like my little TV in my kitchen, in the back room. Like the, it's so easy to turn on a podcast over a movie, in my opinion. Very easy. Because like it's, it is actually the background noise. Yeah, it's like the best type of background.

Maybe they know that. I'm sure.

I'm sure they do.

Hey, Pete Davidson has a new podcast on Netflix.

You listen to this? What?

Oh my God, it's great. Really? Yeah.

Who does he have? Does he— by himself?

I can't tell if it's great because it's who his first guest is, but his first guest is his best friend, Machine Gun Kelly. But they're like actually friends, and it's fascinating.

Wait, they're actually best friends?

They're like actually like buddies who like did drugs together and like did fucked up shit together, like from when they were younger. Yeah, I guess, I guess maybe like they were on a movie together maybe like 5, 6 years ago or whatever, 10 years ago, I'm not sure. So they just, they're just talking like, they're talking like you're talking to John. Like, it's so— oh wow. And it's shot really interesting.

And where is it, just like in his basement? It's just—

exactly, it's just in his basement. It looks like shit.

Oh, it's sick.

I mean, the film quality is good, like that '70s Show vibes, like that '70s Show. Yeah, and it's, it's really good. And it's not available on audio. Wow. It's like only available on Netflix. Whoa. Yeah, it's really good. That's crazy. I like Pete Davidson a lot.

Yeah, I like Pete Davidson. He's really funny. All right guys, that's all the time we have for this podcast. Thank you guys for listening. Thank you for everybody that joined us. Thank you, Jason Nash. Go watch his daily vlogs, some of the litest in the fucking game. And then go check out Natalie's job application. She's hiring people and she'd love to see you. Okay, bye.