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But yeah, maybe that's just me.
I think there's an in-between. If it's too quick, it's never good, right? But if it's too long, I agree, it's mostly bad.
I think it's 15, 15 minutes.
I think it's 9, 9 to 11.
Oh, 9 to 11.
Ella's agree.
9 to 11 is actually really good. I just said 15 because I didn't want to be embarrassed if I was wrong. 9 to 11 sounds really good. Yeah. Jay, what about you? I mean, 20 to 30 seconds.