Worst Money Ever Spent

What's up guys, and welcome back to Views. Jay, I'm gonna start this pod off. I'm gonna give you two options for what story you want to hear. Okay, first. Okay, and I'm gonna give you— and you can decide which one.

Choose your own fantasy.

Exactly.

Amazing. An interactive pod.

This interactive pod. And if you're at home, start yelling. Yeah, start yelling if you want option A or option B. And I'm gonna see if you picked the right option.

Okay.

Jay, which one do you want?

I will take option A.

Okay, and now people at home? Oh, option B, Isaac. Okay.

Oh my god, Isaac. Okay, Isaac gets to say.

I hope there's an Isaac. Dude, please tell me if you're an Isaac.

There's definitely an Isaac.

Option B. Okay, so I've finally decided that I know— what, what, what?

I don't know, I was waiting for something like major.

No, people always ask me what my worst money is that I've ever spent.

Yeah.

And I've never, I've never actually had an answer because like everything I've put to use, like everything, like whether if even if it is the worst money, I've put use to it. And I guess me spending this money and me talking about it now is kind of me putting use to it because I'm talking about it on the podcast.

I know you're going to say.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's the Pokémon cards.

Oh my God.

It's a bit that never went in this vlog. It was supposed to be. I've actually had the Pokémon cards for a full month. So this is what I did. Alex Ernst came over and he had this weird obsession with Pokémon cards or with just cards. He wanted to open cards. So I was like, okay, let's go to the card store and figure out about this. Whenever Alex is interested into something, like I'm kind of like, okay, let's see this through. 'Cause Alex is like a very like, you know, childlike personality.

He has very specific likes and wants.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And so interesting in his whatever he likes.

Yeah, whatever he decides he likes is interesting because it's like, I wanna, I wanna support it. I want to participate in it. Sure. So we liked opening cards, so we went to the card store, and obviously I've seen like YouTubers, I've seen like Logan Paul open like expensive Pokémon cards, right?

Yeah.

So I'm like, okay, let me get one of those packs so we can open, and I found one pack.

A box.

A box. Like it's the, it's the, it's the Pokémon box. If you know anything about Pokémon cards, you've seen it. It's a box of Pokémon cards from the year 1999. Everything in this pack is unopened. The pack itself is unopened, and the package cost $30,000, which is a lot of fu— $30,000. Now think about it. This guy bought these Pokémon cards in 1999 for $6, the whole pack.

Sure, sure.

$6.

The whole box.

The whole box.

Yeah.

And then just left it unopened for whatever reason. Maybe he forgot about it for a year. Maybe he never really cared about it. Maybe he, maybe he knew that one day it'd be worth something. Yeah. And now here we are, what, 26 years later? Yeah, it's worth $30,000.

Unreal. Did you check the market on that? Like, did you look around? Like, that's going rate.

$30,000 is fair. He's a schoolteacher.

Okay.

And the family's been in his— or the box has been in his family for 2 generations. Right. So it's like kind of a big deal. It was passed down through his, like, through different people in his family. And now he's taking care of it and he's decided to let it go and sell it. So he even told us, he's like, please record everything, or like at least send me a picture of all the cards that are in it.

Yeah.

So why Pokémon cards are interesting to open for the people that aren't— okay, let me tell you this. This was my plan with the Pokémon box. I am completely— I have no idea about Pokémon. I played Yu-Gi-Oh! as a kid. That's as far as I go with cards. I don't know anything about Pokémon.

What is Pokémon?

I mean, what's Yu-Gi-Oh!?

It's like a Nintendo game.

Well, it's the same as Pokémon.

It's just like a guy bopping around. Is it a fantasy game? Yeah, like Dungeons and Dragons?

Mystical characters? No, it's a card game.

It's a card game.

Um, so, okay. So, I already felt a little weird buying the cards, 'cause like, I know there's Pokémon lovers out there, but that was my whole thing. My whole thing was the most expensive card in the deck is a holographic Charizard. That's what you're trying to get. And the chances of you pulling one of those Charizards is very low. But I was like, I'm sure we're gonna get it. Like, what are the chances? There's 36 packs in this box. Yeah, each pack may or may not have a holographic Charizard.

About 8 cards per pack, huh? About 8 cards per pack.

8 cards per pack. Yeah, and then if you get the holographic Charizard, it's worth a lot of money. You want to guess how much money it's worth?

I looked it up.

How much?

It's really funny that you think that.

Okay, tell me.

Because while we were— so I filmed it for the vlog where we're opening all the cards and every— I told nobody what anything was worth, right? Because I wanted you to have like all your own beliefs about it. Um, you even were saying that it's a million dollar card.

I just— I don't know why I said that. I just assumed— I thought you said that.

No, it's not a million. A couple days before, the Charizard's worth like $9,000.

Oh, you're kidding.

Yeah, I didn't want to tell you that because like I wanted it to be really exciting when it opened. And to me, it is the worst money you ever spent. Yeah, to me it wasn't about— it wasn't about making money.

This is a $30,000 podcast story.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I hope they're enjoying it.

To me, it wasn't about making money. I really wanted to open the pack and then go back to the card store and find a kid that's like getting— like not getting into Pokémon, but really loves Pokémon.

Yeah.

And get him this card that he would not have access to at this point, which would be a $9,000 Charizard.

Right.

I was really excited to start his collection, start his collection and give him all the cards. I have no use for any of the cards.

Yeah. That would have been nice.

Really sick. And maybe I still will buy—

I'll do that.

Maybe if you see this in the vlog, then yeah, then maybe.

But didn't— weren't a lot of the cards that you pulled worth— Yeah, about like altogether like $12,000 or something.

Yeah, there's a couple of cards that are still worth something. So it's—

you lost $18,000, but it wasn't like the big card, right?

But yeah, so it was really funny because Jason, I was editing the footage back, even though I was like, I'm not using any of this. I just still wanted to look at the footage. And there was a moment where I'm like, okay, this next deck is dedicated to Jason and his kids. Like, it's all the money's going to Jason's kids' tuition. And I didn't know at the time that Jason assumed the card was $1 million. So Jason's like, oh my God, thank God. He was fucking ecstatic. And I was like, oh, I was really excited about this.

Yeah, you would have been able to cover the meal plan at college.

Yeah, that's why. That's why I thank God we didn't win on that deck. Can you imagine? You would have been so excited. I would have had a— been like, that's only $9 grand. And I only say $9 grand because the entire box costs $30,000.

Right.

Which, which I don't even understand why, why the box costs that much.

Yeah, I don't either.

Yeah. So, and the way you open Pokémon cards, it's really funny. Like, you have to be really delicate with it. So like, it, like, if there's a little— the card's only worth a lot of money if it's— you have to send it into PSA, like they grade the card. And if it's graded a 10, That's when it's worth a lot. It's very difficult to pull a 10. Everything has to be perfect. No dust, no creases, no— the edges can't be smushed even a little bit. The printing has to be perfect. No fading, no discoloration. Everything has to be absolutely perfect. So even if you pull the Charizard, you have to go through steps to make sure it's that one. But it's really funny because even just the box that it sits in, it sits in a cardboard box, like the shittiest cardboard box. Yeah, like, like what you get your Chick-fil-A burger in. Yeah, right, like that type of cardboard. And even that box, if you just resell the box alone, is going for $2,000.

Wow.

So there are like bits you can kind of un-Frankenstein the box and sell bits and pieces of it.

And then you were, you were ready to buy another box.

Yeah, I was just livid because I was like, I'm already $30,000 in the hole. And that's when I started— it wasn't about making money ever.

Right.

It was just about like getting the bit, getting the bit and just like, I wanted to fucking feel the joy of seeing this orange fucking dinosaur on this card or whatever a Charizard is actually known as.

Yeah.

Dragon. Sorry, not dinosaur.

And then we were going to have a big garage sale to pay for this.

Alex Ernst had a funny idea. Yeah. He was like, let's have a garage sale and we'll sell all of our things just to buy a second box. But it was raining. It was raining. It's been raining all week, so we couldn't get that bit done. And I was so fucking defeated. After the box where I'm like, fuck this.

Yeah.

Like I just went to lay down right away because I was like, I can't believe we just opened. It took an hour to open all the cards very softly and then to open all of them and get zero pulls.

And we had Vardan there too, which is a hazard.

Vardan was there, which was really dangerous for the cards, but we made it through. But yeah, I was, I don't know. That is now, I now have an answer for the worst money I've ever spent, which I've never, that's the one question that I get like so often and never have a good answer to.

Yeah, that one's gotta be up there.

Yeah, it's right next to the Iron Man statue that got stolen by that creepy dude in fucking West Covina.

How much was that?

That was $10 grand.

Oh, and AMC.

AMC. That's not spending money though. That's just like, that's just like, you know, 'cause I didn't buy anything. I was buying stocks.

For me, the meme coin we bought, that was the bad, that was bad.

Really awful.

Oh my god, I wish I had that money still.

How much you put in?

Like $30,000.

Shut the fuck up.

Yeah.

Oh dude, yeah, that's a lot of money.

I know, really bad, really bad. And we were all doing it, so I was like, oh, it'll be fine, everyone's doing it, we'll work it out.

It's exactly why I thought it was fine.

Yeah, we've talked about it. So fucking dumb.

Yeah. Ah, Scott Sire had us all change our coins from Dogecoin Or no, from Doge to Hoge.

Yeah.

Or from Hoge to Doge, whatever it was.

Doge to Hoge.

And then the second we bought this coin—

No, no, it went up and it went up. It was going up for a while.

Wait, really?

Yeah. That was the story I told you where Heath was like, we're going to be like billionaires.

I don't think it was going up, Jay. I think it was just— it was just sitting.

No, there was a time where it was like—

We were never like 2x our money. That's what I'm saying. And that coin wasn't supposed to 2x. It was either going to crash and burn or it was going to 1,000x. Yeah, like there was no, you know, no one was going to— and that's the problem when you buy things like that is like, if it 3x'd, would you really sell? When it got to $90,000, would you really sell?

Right?

No, no, no. You'd be like, this is only the beginning till it crashes. It's just, that's why I just don't. I don't do any of that shit anymore because I'm so fucking stupid when it comes to it.

What do you do for like stocks and stuff? Do you have somebody handle that?

I have somebody do it.

You do? But you look at it?

No.

You don't look at it at all?

Fuck no. So that's, I mean, that's the story of when I invested in AMC.

Do you get returns on your stocks? Like yearly returns or monthly returns? Or do you just let it sit there?

I think they do returns.

Oh, wow.

Because they, like my accountant makes enough money, I think, to pay for himself basically.

Wow.

From the stocks.

That's pretty cool.

But what was I going to say? That was crazy. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, the only time I've done stocks is I just became a Chase private client.

Yeah.

I was like freshly 19 or whatever, or 20, 20, 20, 20 or 21.

Oh, they must have loved seeing you come in the bank.

It was great. I had this incredible lady who worked with me. She was like an older Filipino woman. I fucking loved her.

Oh, interesting.

And yeah, she always took care of me. And then I went into like the other offices at Chase private client and I was like, I'm going to invest. This is right when I bought my Tesla. I've told the story and I was like, I want to put $1 million on Tesla. And the guy's looking at me like, what? I had like a million, maybe $2 million in the bank. I actually don't know how much I have in the bank. Yeah, but I was ready to fucking risk it all on Tesla.

Yeah.

God, fuck, I wish I kept that money there.

Why'd you sell?

Why'd I sell?

You got scared?

Because deadass, the day after, yeah, it fucking shot down like crazy. And I was checking it every 5 minutes.

You got scared?

I was like, I don't care how much money I could potentially make. This is so aggravating. Like, I'm looking at my phone every fucking 5 seconds of the stock, and then it got above what I bought it for.

Yeah.

And I made about $4,000. You know what? You know how much of a pussy you have to be to bet? You know how stupid and how much of a pussy you have to be to put $1 million in the stock and only make $4,000? Like, I should either be losing $400,000 or making fucking $8 million.

How much would you have if you left it in?

Huh?

How much would you have today?

I mean, I've gotten different numbers because Tesla's stock has split in between that, so it's become even crazier. Anywhere between $11 to like $20 million just from that stock.

You think it would have changed you if you had it? If you had that kind of money? Let's say by like 2020 or 2022, you're like, all right, Dave, it's time to sell. You've made $20 million.

But that's the thing is like, I'm not gonna— I'm not gonna sit around, wait for my million dollars. Like, do you know what I mean? That's not like— I say I would have had $11 to $25 million, but Jay, the second I made $300,000, I would have pulled out. Oh, do you know what I mean? I would have never waited that long.

All right, right, right, right.

Like, it's just like— yeah, which I guess is— I guess is the opposite of what I'm saying.

When you had more money, you could have been like, oh yeah, I'll leave it.

I'd never had that much more money where $1 million was comfortable in one stock. Yeah, that's, that's, that is the dumbest thing in the world. And the guy was like, are you sure you're doing this? I can't talk you out of it because it is your money, but it's, it's completely, completely like not responsible. All right, next, the other option. Okay, I want to tell you about— I'm thinking of starting a new business.

What?

Oh, this is serious. I just yawned. This is serious.

That's the name of it?

No. So you know how I love Christmas trees?

Yeah.

I have 3.

Yeah.

And every time I have them, I'm like, okay, this is what the house has been missing all year.

Like, every time I have them in my home, it is nice in here with those trees. It's, it's like incredible.

It completes it.

They're tall, they're colorful. He's got 3 of them and they're all over.

They sit in the perfect corner. They're lighting up. It's like a warm light. So I'm going to invent something for like summertime Christmas trees. Yeah, like that's my new— that's my invention idea.

That same type of tree?

No.

Oh, different.

Palm tree? Maybe. Yeah, I'm thinking like palm tree.

That light isn't warm like a Christmas tree though. A palm tree is like— it's like kind of prehistoric looking.

Well, I'm gonna have to figure this out.

It's mostly just ugly bark.

Yeah, and it can't be like a bonsai tree either.

No.

So I am going to get into this business.

Why don't you just sell a Christmas tree in July?

What do you mean?

A summer tree.

I don't think those are a thing.

Fourth of July tree? It can't be.

It can't, like—

You want all year round or like one holiday?

All year round. All year round. But I don't want it to take away from the magic of Christmas. Hmm. So it needs to, like, still have the warmth of Christmas trees.

Yeah. With lights.

Yeah. I don't know. It's very difficult.

It's going to be tough because It's like, let's say you do it and you put it in your house and it's like February and someone comes over, they're gonna be like, you know, Dave didn't take his tree down yet.

We just posted a new video today. Yeah, the vibes are high. What up, dude? Jason did a, um, Jason did a bit that we've been planning for like 2 months, which was the— he dressed up as me. I mean, do we tell people the price of that bit?

No, no, not after Pokémon.

So Jason got— we went to like The people.

Sure.

Like, the guys— these guys worked— these guys were the head costume designers on all of the Marvel projects up until Avengers: Endgame.

Sure.

And did everything from all the Supermans from—

with DC costume stuff too.

Yeah, sorry, costume and faces. So if you go to their— you go to their little warehouse, you see like Brad Pitt's picture or Brad Pitt's face.

They have molds.

Yeah, they have molds.

Basically every big actor you can think of that have done molds. And so you'll see like Nic Cage's mold, you'll see Brad Pitt's face in a mold.

And all the molds are like, let's say Nicolas Cage is, you know, needs to be like beat up for a scene in the movie, so he comes in, they use his mold, yeah, and they mold like cuts on his nose to him or cuts on his mouth to him, and then they put it on him, or they completely change his face, right?

And we've done makeup stuff before, but this was different because they did a laser scan of your face. Yeah, we've got teeth and eyes and—

yeah, so we came in, they lasered both Jason and I's face. Mm-hmm. Then they did— then they did molds of our teeth. Mm-hmm. And then Jason got colored contacts.

We did molds of your teeth that popped on my teeth.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it was— it's a very fucking complicated process.

I went— I went 2 weeks before and did 5 hours of makeup just to test it.

Yeah.

Yeah, for a minute 30 in the vlog.

Yeah, it was, it was, it wasn't in there for too— but there's so many other funny bits. I'm gonna put it on.

Why do we, why do we do that? Why do we work like that?

That's a great—

that's a good topic.

I don't know.

Why do we work like that? Anyone else?

You think I should put longer?

No, but I can't. I agree with you, you can't make it longer. But, but anyone else would like— any other production entity would be like, okay, let's, let's get the most out of this very expensive, time-consuming Time-consuming. It was, it was—

that's not true—

6 hours on the day for me to get in the makeup and the test, 5 hours. Time is money. And, and you spent a lot of money on it. It's like, why? And then we're only seeing a minute 30.

I understand what I mean, but like, how could you possibly say that? Like, I'm not saying it. I'm not comparing ours, our, my videos to a Hollywood movie. I am.

But okay, if you're spending that much money, okay, so great.

So let me make that comparison for you. In a movie, they spend a lot of money on 3 3-second scenes. Like, that's just how it is.

So like, yes, so that's true.

We, we, I'll, I'll put it in for 8 minutes if it's warranted for 8 minutes. Yeah, but it just didn't make sense for any longer. But, uh, on the second channel, I'm gonna upload a lot of it. I feel like there's a lot of funny stuff.

You are? Yeah. When's that coming out?

I have to do next week.

Oh, you do? Okay, good.

Natalie's making me. Okay, great, because I promised a second channel video since I've started the vlogs.

Yeah, originally you're gonna do one every other week.

Well, what happens is when I post a vlog, I just get so fucking tired. And for the next—

go get a trainer and go work out. You won't be so tired.

No, for the next 5 days, for the next 5 days, I'm just like asleep. And now I have to go to— tomorrow morning I have to go to Vegas.

Yes.

For F1.

Excited?

It's going to obliterate me. Oh, it's going to be—

why can't you go and— why can't you have like calm Vegas? Go to the spa. Go see the events, do your Snapchats, do your vlog, and then go home. And then wake up at 8 AM.

Unfortunately, Vegas F1 is like when a lot of our friends are there.

Okay. So you're gonna be at Zouk?

We just throw a lot of people at— we never go to Zouk.

Oh, wherever you go.

No, no, no, we go to XS.

Oh, XS, okay.

Encore.

My bad.

Wynn. And now the MGM. Rooms available? Rooms available, use code David. No, but Yeah, we just have a lot of people, a lot of our friends that work in Vegas. We have to. So not only like everyone flies in for Vegas F1. Yeah, but it's my first time I got invited to Vegas F1. This is going to be— this can be a flex. This has never happened to me. 4 different ways.

No way.

Comped.

4 different people.

And paid, obviously.

How do you— how do you do it? How do you—

I don't know. I've never— this has never happened to me. I think it's because I'm posting again. So people are like, oh, he's actually doing something right.

So who did you— so 4 different people offered and one— are you working for 4 different companies?

No, I'm only going with— I'm going with 2. 2. 2, 2, 2, 2.

Okay. So you'll post, you'll have fun. You're going to drink?

Yeah, I'm going to drink.

You are going to drink?

I mean, it's part of my obligation. It's like, it's like if Ilya wanted to go, right? He wouldn't. I asked him. He said no. Yeah. But like, if Ilya was like, yeah, I'll come. But then I'm like, are you going to have fun? And he's like, no, I'm going to be in bed by 9. It's like, you can't do that. The race starts at 11. Or 10.

At night?

Yeah.

Oh, really?

It's a night race.

And how long does it last?

I think it's like an hour and a half?

Oh, wow.

Less? I don't know.

And are you at the finish line?

You're at the paddock. So yes, yeah, you're at the finish.

Oh, wow.

Um, but then after—

And so you're at the paddock—

After the race, everybody goes out and you're looking at like 12:31.

Are you walking to different areas to like see the cars come by or are you just staying in the paddock and watching on TV?

No, so you have— it just depends.

It doesn't make sense. You can't be as fast as a car.

No, no, like different people are on different turns.

In the paddock, will you see like celebrities and stuff? Yeah, it's like super high level. I remember— I don't remember F1 ever being a thing when I was younger. Uh, no, it's kind of new. No, no, it's not new, but like, but like doing it in Vegas is kind of new.

Vegas, I think it's only been 3 years. Yeah, but the Netflix doc —made it mainstream, right? Like, Ilya was obsessed with it before. Yeah. And then he's always trying to get me on, and then he showed me the Netflix doc, and then I understood it a lot more. And then seeing it in person, you really understand it. Yeah. But yeah, no, no, it's really— and each of those paddock passes, like, for one ticket, yeah, to go to the paddock is like $30,000, $40,000. Wow. One ticket. Wow. It's crazy. So brands shell out a lot.

Your ticket is costing them $30,000, $40,000 just for you to get in there. Yes. And Natalie?

Another $30,000, $40,000. What? Yeah. How? I don't know.

I don't understand.

It's like an insane amount of money. It's insane amount of money. Wow. Yeah. What's the brand? I was talking to this guy the other day and he was— oh, the brand? Um, well, there's, there's a bunch, but like, Kane's will do something. Kane's has the best setup. Inside the paddock. Okay. So inside the paddock, you'll have all the teams will have their own setup. Yeah. So Ferrari will have their Ferrari lounge. Okay.

Which sounds just great.

Sounds great, but it's not as cool as Cain's. Why? Because Cain's is the only one that's like fully decked out in Cain's. They have disco balls. Okay.

They're fun. Yeah.

And the crew they bring is like everyone's just like drinking and having fun and mingling and like watching the race. A lot of people that will hang out in like the Ferrari paddock, It's like you're at a restaurant. You don't even know there's a race outside. People are watching it on the TVs. They're having dinner, so they— everyone's so rich during these sports, right? We're like, yeah, obviously they're not gonna watch the cars go by the entire time. This is their 30th F1, right? So like, I know, like, I'll walk there and I'll be like, why aren't you watching the race? But it's like, they have a completely different perspective of the race, right? Like, they're here because they're working. Yeah. Son or their company or whatever is in the race. Yeah. So they're watching from the TVs or wherever they have to watch. It's interesting. But, but yeah, but yes, but a lot of people do watch too. It's, it's such an interesting fucking sport.

I don't know.

Yeah, but Cannes is the best setup.

And then you'll go to the club and stay out till 4. Yeah, unfortunately. Why don't you?

I was looking back at snaps last year when, when I went with Ilya and Natalie and we were home at like 9 in the morning. Really? Yeah.

Does that give you anxiety looking at old snaps? You're like, fuck, I was home at 9 in the morning. Super.

And that was like when I could like still like—

What's your, what's your energy level like? Like, like, do you ever think to yourself, like, like if it were me, if I, if I know like I have a big week next week, I'll be like, oh no, I'm going to— I'll go home at 1 a.m. and get like a decent night's sleep.

But don't you want to know? My mindset is like, I'm going to F1. Yeah. And I'm going to be sick after it. Like, that's just it. Why? Because I just know I'm going to.

Why would you do that to yourself?

Well, it's not to myself.

Have a little foresight.

No, but like, but like, like I told you, these things are expensive for companies to throw on. So like, I don't want to. Yeah, but you're—

I know, but nothing's happening at XS at 2 in the morning for the company.

That's kind of when— yeah, that's when everyone goes out. Really?

There's a big deal happening. There's big content happening. No, there's no deals.

But like, you don't want to invite like If I was Kane's, right, or if I was Doughbrik's Pizza, yeah, and I invited people to F1, I would want people to join us all night. Okay, I don't, I don't want people to come and just be fucking boring at the race and then go to bed, right? Like, it's the full experience. It's Vegas F1. So like, and I would never dare to be a drag at something, and like, you know, I want to give like my best foot forward. I see, I see. No, you don't see?

I don't know, I'm just, I'm imagining those clubs in Vegas. It's like So?

No, you don't really talk. What's happening?

What are you working on?

No, no, no, it's not that. People don't say, "What are you working on?" I saw your latest vlog. It was really great. What? No, I don't think people talk like that that much.

Did Natalie really get a boob job? Huh?

And also, okay, so also in the last vlog, what happened? We—

oh, boob job.

I went to New Mexico.

People got to see some of the podcast. Oh, you went to New Mexico? Yeah.

Oh, people saw some of the podcast.

Which I loved.

In the vlog.

I think that's so cool.

That's gonna be interesting.

I'm sure, I'm sure it's going to fuck— you know that thing, it's gonna fuck some people up in their heads.

Yes, yes.

Did you ever listen to, like, ever listen to a radio show when you were younger, or you only heard, like—

I mean, it's like reading a book and watching a movie.

Uh, no, it's a little— yes, it is, but it's a little different. It's like when you, um— I used to listen to, like, an announcer, right, on baseball. Yeah, for years. And then when you finally see him, you're like, that's what Tom Coleman looks like? You're like, nah, it blows your mind. Yeah.

So to see us in here, your exact reaction. Yeah, well, you just described is what you said. No, is why I don't want to do the video podcast. Well, if we had a video podcast, we'd have a nice set, but some people maybe don't imagine a nice set. Some people maybe think we're in a submarine, or some people think we're on an airplane. Some people think we're like cozy up by a fire. Like, I, I just like, like to keep whatever people think, you know, wherever the imagination— yeah, if you guys think that Jason and I are stroking each other off right now and we're naked You let that run wild. Like, that's what's happening.

You guys are the perverts, so I'm sure that's what you're thinking.

Oh, please, fuck it. For the love of God, change that name. And then also we went to Albuquerque. I went to New Mexico to see Jonah film with James Franco for This Is Crazy. So Jonah's been working on this movie. He's had like X amount of actors in mind as a goal. Yeah. And I think James Franco was like at the top of his list. And he told us that he got James Franco I like couldn't really wrap my head around. I was like, what? You're going to be on screen with James Franco, the guy from fucking Spider-Man, Pineapple Express, like The Interview? You got his autograph? Why him? I was so confused. And then I went there and I saw them acting together and I was like, oh my God, this is actually— it's really happening. I was so shocked. Yeah, I was shocked. I was shocked. I was shocked. I was shocked. I was standing there and I mean, it looked like, you know, James Franco was being James Franco.

What did you think? Like, you know, you met Jonah in like a dingy apartment. And just all like, how do you, how do you perceive all that? The time that went by and now he's doing that?

Um, I don't know, because it's, it's, he's still filming it, right? Like, and I tell him that too.

He's done shooting.

I don't want to get his ego up above, you know, right? Not much to say yet.

I got you.

It's cool that he's there. Yeah, right. But I don't want to, I don't want to put, I don't want to count our chickens. Okay, I see. Yeah, you guys have movie cuts together. Like, I don't want to jinx him. Sure. I really, I really wish him the best, and I really hope it's so fucking so funny.

I think just from—

I haven't even read a single page of the script, so I have no idea.

Yeah, you think you get your money back? My investment? Yeah, they were showing you figures yesterday. It looks like you're getting your money back.

I'll believe it when I— I believe when I see it, man. They told me I get my money back for those Pokémon cards.

Will you get a— if you do get your money back, will you buy a second box?

I'm buying, I'm buying 4 boxes.

Would you be happy if they just gave your money back and no profit? Of course.

Yeah, because that's money lost to me, right? Like, it's gone. Yeah. Yeah, that'd be nice. Not because I don't think it's gonna do well, but like in my head. Yeah. So like, I'll take— if the movie breaks even, I— in the film industry, I consider that that's a win. Like, even big— yeah, like huge Hollywood movies don't break even. Yeah. So like, if you break even, you fucking did it.

Did you see a lot of the movies are not— people aren't going to movies. Why? Why do you think? It feels like they're making a lot of movies and the movies are not making their money back at all.

There have been a lot more movies.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And good ones are coming too.

I just don't think you go to the theater unless it's a fucking banger. Yeah, like, you don't—

like, I wonder that. Like, I wonder that, how people think about that. It's just, you just, why would you, right?

It's what they've also done that has fucked the movie theaters is the turnover right now from movies to streaming is almost like 2 weeks, right? It's like, it, there's, there used to be a moment where I had to think about it and I had to be like, well, I kind of want to see this now. Yeah. Or do I wait 4 months for when it's available somewhere else? Or it used to be like 8 months for like DVD or something, but like now it's like Now it's like, I'm like, there'll still be movies in the theater and there'll be a section on Prime that'll say theater at home. So it's like, what's the same fucking movies that are playing in there? Why the fuck would I see it in theaters? Yeah, unless it's a Marvel, unless it's an event, right?

I watched Good Fortune the other night. Aziz Ansari and Seth Rogen and Keanu. Great movie. And Naveen and I were like, oh, let's go see it in the theater.

No one was there.

No, Naveen was like, it's on streaming. It was in both. And we were like, oh, we'll just watch it here. Yeah. Do you know why there's no more comedies anymore? Judd Apatow explained it.

No, I'd love to hear this.

He said that when he was doing his comedies, or when there was a lot of comedies, the DVD market was so amazing that you could, like, let's say a movie costs $40 million, you make $20 at the box office, and then you make like $40, $60 in DVDs. Wow. Yeah. And then once that went away, people are like, I'm not gonna greenlight any comedies. Like, why would I fucking do that? They don't sell internationally. We went to a—

Would comedy sell more as DVDs? I guess, as opposed to action?

Yeah, because people wanted it. Like, people would want Wedding Crashers or whatever. We went to a film financing thing the other night, and we were talking to people that like finance movies, and they were just like, yeah, just action and horror. Really? Action and horror. That's the only—

Why are you saying horror so weird? Horror.

Horror. Horror. How do you say it? Horror.

Are you fucking— horror. You said it like you're from Boston.

It's a tough word. Say it. Well, because in Boston you would say horror. Oh, okay. How do you say it? Horror.

Horror. It's like whore. Whore.

Whore.

But like, just like you— he's in your finishers on his own now. He's horror.

Uh, and they say that horror movies are cheap and action movies translate everywhere. Ah, yeah.

What I do think is interesting that I'm surprised hasn't been tapped more into, or maybe it is and maybe it's just not my niche. But how come there's not— because horror movies I think are the easiest to make. Yes, right?

Yes. Like, if you think about it, yeah, if you, if you're like really creative and inventive, like, did you ever see Blair Witch? No, but I mean, yeah, Blair Witch was made—

I don't watch any horror movies.

I don't either, but Blair Witch was made with like a DV cam, like a literally like a homemade, right, right? And they made it for no money and it made, you know, that's why I'm shocked.

I don't see more YouTubers doing horror.

Yeah, they are.

Like Sam and Colby really lean into it in like their own like YouTuber way.

I'm surprised they haven't made a horror movie.

I'm sure they're working on something, right? But like, yeah, that is kind of like an interesting thing.

It kind of, yeah, it kind of would break the internet.

I think comedy's just dead because of just social media. Uh, why?

Because you just get so much comedy. So much.

It's like, it's impossible. It's impossible. Why would I watch anybody's fucking YouTube video when there's a random guy who just lit his foot on fire? And is riding a humpback whale.

It's not like watching a story with jokes and—

Bro, you know what I've been using? What? This is so fucked up. What? Sora.

Oh yeah, I have.

I've been like going on it, like for entertainment, because it's funny.

What do you watch on there? No, I just scroll. And what's happening?

Just AI videos.

Tell me, tell me, tell me.

Well, what's happening is you have no idea what's happening.

Just give me a little taste.

You can never— ah, fuck.

It's like Martin Luther King. Oh, the one Sora video I saw was Helen Keller on the top rope in WWE.

Yeah, it's amazing. It's fucking amazing. But it's gotten like past that.

Yeah, it's getting better than that. People are like, they're cutting together scenes and making longer Soras, right?

And why I like it, it's actually the most I've felt inspired. This is going to sound crazy that I'm saying this about AI, but I feel inspired from it because the ideas are so obtuse, weird. Bizarre, like out there. Yep. That they, they match what I would want to do in a vlog. Ah, so it'd be like something really bizarre. It'd be like Bigfoot living in the White House. Yeah, right, right. That's really funny. Yeah, I should do that with Jay.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like it matches more of like the vlog style. So like I go, I'll go to Sora and I'll be like, I'm like, oh, we could actually get this done. Like I could put Jason in makeup for 6 hours. We can have Bigfoot meet David or whatever. Whatever.

Not that exactly, but like, yeah, there's people doing like creative stuff on there.

I get it. And I think it—

I think it looks—

I feel like a lot of creative people are lazy. Yeah. And I feel like that allows a lot of like fucking lazy people to get their creative thoughts out there.

Where do you stand on like seeing something and then redoing it?

What do you mean?

Like sometimes, sometimes I'll see something and I'll be like, oh, that's a great idea. They killed it. And then I'd be like, I would feel weird redoing it sometimes.

Well, I have to say, it's— I have to say, I— if it's so like— so like Cole Hirsch made a funny joke. Yeah. Um, on his Instagram, he's— he just— he does skits. He's a comedian. He's very funny. It was so funny. I was like, let's do it on my vlog. Yeah. So I called him over. I haven't posted this yet, but I called him over. I was like, can we do that? He's like, 100%, let's go do it on your vlog. So we just redid it almost verbatim. Yes, word for word. Yeah.

But yet you're using The guy.

Yeah, the guy. Well, that's how I feel about it. I feel like if you have the original people in it, you're fine.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But like, back to my Bigfoot thing. Yeah. Like, I wouldn't— like, Bigfoot in the White House is a premise that I don't feel like I've stolen. Right.

Or you would maybe not do Bigfoot in the White House. You'd do Bigfoot on Mars or something. Sure.

Right.

But kind of, it does inspire you in that direction.

All our lines would be different. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I would never take a line.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Or like, take the main joke. Yeah. But just like the premise and the scenario. Like, I think that's what the vlog, like, is like. That's the toughest part of the vlog. It's just like, where do you put us? Like, give us a location and then it's easier to make funny stuff. Yes. But a lot of times it's like we're just sitting at the house and we're like, we've been at— we've shot 10 things at the house. We got to leave.

Well, that's why I like the garage sale idea.

I do like garage sale, but camping's great. Garage sale.

Any—

if we're going to do garage sale, I really want to do like where we're selling a bunch of shitty things. Yeah. And every time someone buys something, It's great. There's like a dollar. There's like $1,000 at the bottom of the tissue box. Yes. Or at the bottom of the vase. And every product is worth like— maybe there's one product that's worth like $10,000, one that's worth like $50,000. Like, that's really fun.

That's really fun. Like, maybe there's like a shitty car key and you don't tell Jon and Jon's like, we're selling out like crazy, but all the people know.

That's really funny. Yeah. And look, we lose like $200,000 on the gross. Like, I think that's funny. Or like you have like you're selling a keychain Yeah, it's like, you know, like a fishing keychain or whatever, but it's attached to an actual key for a car.

Oh, that's really good.

I think that's really fun.

Yeah, that's really good.

We just have to set it up properly, and it's like all day of just sitting around waiting for people to come.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I don't love, like, I don't love filming random people. I don't know why, I just like don't like it. Why? Because so many people do it now. Like, I see— now, really? Why? It's like I just feel bad for the people of LA. Why?

You're inviting people into your driveway.

Like, when you're in the Midwest or when we're anywhere else, it's really easy to film in public with people because people are more open to it. But when you're here, I just think people are surrounded by it so much where it's like—

People get annoyed.

It's like, leave me alone, please. I'm at a fucking garage sale. That's just what stresses me out. People are TikToking always. People are making their own vlogs. People are working on film sets. They just want to be people, right? So I just like hate to disrupt that, but I don't know, I'm sure there's a way to be like, we're filming a show here.

When I think about when I was a kid and to be like, like, wow, I'd love to make movies, but it's like, it's impossible. Like, it's so expensive to buy like a, you know, a 35mm camera or whatever. And now it's just like, you can just fucking do anything. It's so fucking cool.

Yeah, that is like, you don't have to have your camera.

No, a kid can just go. Did you know on the new iPhone you can vlog vertically?

Yes, dude, that's crazy.

Yeah, you know that?

Yeah, yeah, no, it's wild. Wow. Well, I just think back to like, my dad was a photographer, he is a photographer, and he would have like 2 or 3 DSLRs like in this cabinet. Yeah. And it was like, I would, I wouldn't even dare to touch them. Yeah, like I'd be like, that's like so above anything I know, do you know what I mean? But like now our iPhones shoot the quality that his fucking his cameras were shooting. Yeah. And what's going to happen in 10 years? Like, I can't wait till I don't have to have a vlog camera in my hand and I could just film it on my phone. You think?

Well, what about sound?

Well, I think they'll figure out sound by then too, right? Or, you know, or I'm hoping that there'll be a day where Apple has like customizable packages. It'll be more like what? Like this is a phone for the video creator. 'Cause I think we're getting close to like, there's enough video creators where Apple can start tailoring. There's so many creators and people that make content for their businesses or whatever on their phones that I feel like—

A creator phone.

Yeah, we're not too far from like, yeah, like that's where the focus is going on.

Did you know that Apple is opening up the App Store to everybody? So it's this thing called mini apps. And so it used to be, you'd make an app, it'd be really hard to get it approved, and blah blah blah, and Apple would take 70%.

Yes, Ilya was telling me about this.

Yeah, and now, um, you get like, I think it's like more like two-thirds or something.

Oh, that's crazy.

Or like 80% or something like that.

So you could just make an app, put it on there?

Yeah, and you can make apps now through AI, and they can be done in like 5 minutes. Fucking ridiculous.

It's awesome.

Poor dude.

I feel so bad for— actually, I don't know. I was gonna say, I feel bad for the people that went to like school for like digital art or something. But like, I don't know, I feel like they're gonna figure it out.

Well, there's something to have like that.

I just don't believe that anything could possibly actually take over like a creative task. Like I think a true creative person that got into, 'cause I think like my sister is like pretty against like AI. She's a creative, but I just think like if you're a creative, I think you'll find your way around it. I think you'll find it useful where it doesn't feel like it's actually like intervening with what you're doing. But I'm also talking like pretty prematurely because AI is fairly new. So God knows how intense it's going to get.

Did you know they're saying that there's, um, AI is going to need like $2 trillion or something to just keep it running? Yeah.

What do you think would happen if AI just shut down? The world would go crazy. Bro, Ilya talks to that thing more than he talks to any of us combined. He's not answering emails. I just realized he just talks to AI.

What's he say?

He's just asking things about— he doesn't ask like— it's not like asking random questions about the earth, but it's very specific to like—

That's your thought. I wasn't thinking that. But that's funny.

I don't know. It's just like, I don't even know what it is because he's just— How tall are giraffes?

How tall are giraffes? What is the biggest whale ever? Scene.

What does he say? He definitely uses it for work. I don't know. He just says fucking bunch of work lingo. I told him once that he had a big ego. Yeah. And he like 5 days later, he sent me back this thing where he asked his AI, hey, do I have a big ego? And his AI was like, well, it's actually a good thing that you're recognizing it from our messages, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So like it kind of was like, yeah, you do. Oh, here it is. Here it is. This, this, I have the message. I have a pretty big ego problem. How do I help myself fix it? And then it responded. That's a strong bit of self-awareness already, Ilya. Most people with ego problems never admit it. Let's break this down in a way that's actually actionable, not just philosophical fluff.

I love how AI always answers positively. Yeah. Always.

And then, and then the first bullet point is understand what ego really is. It's not confidence. It's the fragile shell that protects insecurity. It's the part of you that needs to be right instead of learning. It needs to win instead of growing. It seeks validation instead of truth. Pretty damn good. That's good. So the first mind shift— so the first mindset shift is every time your ego flares up, it's actually a signal of insecurity. That's the root. Ilya texted me the screenshot of it saying, I'm working on it. I said, hell yeah. But yeah. All right, guys. Well, that's all the time we have for this pod. Thank you guys for listening. Go watch David's vlog, it's a really good one. I have to go to the dentist, half of my tooth fell off. Yeah, what happened? My crown fell off while I was just fucking eating. I was having wings and it just— and I bit through and I thought I bit a bone, but it was my fucking tooth.

Oh my god.

So yeah, I think I have to chill on the Diet Cokes.

Okay.

Alright.

Alright, see you later. Bye. Bye.