Dinner With Three Famous People

What's up guys, welcome back to Views. This is part 2 of the trilogy of my DMT pursuance. I have not touched DMT yet.

Great.

But if this is a trilogy, okay, so we know the next episode is the finale.

Yes, we have. Have you procured the DMT?

I'm not gonna say, but somebody's wife in this room right now is helping me get DMT.

You're married? You guys got married?

And the people in this room are Jason, John, and Taylor. So somebody's wife here. Obviously also I'm doing this experience for the pod.

Of course. Yes, we should say that.

We should say it's strictly business, strictly scientific. I'm doing just like the scientists. I'm doing research. I volunteered myself as one of the test subjects. I haven't done more research about it, but I've given it some more thought.

Okay.

So people are saying that like, it's like you enter a different dimension. People are saying that it's like, it's more real than reality. And like, I've been kind of thinking about it and it's like, yeah, it's like if you take something and it fires more parts of your brain on, like it turns more parts of your brain on and has more parts of your brain communicate, like in reality, your brain can confuse you into thinking that there is more reality than what you're seeing, right? Like take away our eyes, take away our nose, like take away our brain and our eyes, nose, ears don't do anything. Right. So it's kind of our brain calling the shots.

Yeah.

So at the end of the day, if you find something that can just call the shots a little stronger than your actual reality, then you're straight up in a different reality. So I'm kind of interested in this. I also think this will lead to in 100 years, my biggest goal for science and development is I hope one day we'll all be able to be hooked up to a chair and we'll be able to type in our lives and like what we want to experience. And then we'll be able to live as a rock star.

Oh, that's right. You've always wanted to do that.

Yeah. Live as a superhero. And yeah, like, why is that so far away? Like, why can't scientists just find the tube that, like, confuses your thoughts for real? And that's it.

Yeah, I don't understand that, though, to be hooked up to a tube for your whole life. Like, why not just live your whole life or just die? What?

Well, because you can live like a— well, I'm saying this is that, like, this is— you'd probably do this either in your early age just because you don't love your life, or you do this when you're in your 70s, 80s, and you're about to die.

Oh, wow. What do you think that would cost? $80 grand a year?

Today?

Yeah.

No, I think it'd be a one-time payment.

I would think it would be a monthly— What?

No, no, because you're hooked up to it for life.

Okay, okay.

And I think the way it's programmed is when you die in this new dream world, in this beautiful dream world, that's when you actually die. Which could quite literally be happening right now to any of us. This could be the life you've always wanted, Jason.

The one I'm in now?

Yeah.

Are you sure?

Yeah. Well, who knows? Maybe you came from somewhere where it was like a lot rougher. You do live a nice life.

I know.

Yeah, yeah, I do.

You're right. I know. You know, all things considered, you are the butt of the joke sometimes, but like you live an incredible life.

Yeah, yeah. I am very lucky. I was at a snack convention yesterday. Yeah, that's pretty good.

Yeah. So that's like— and you probably wrote that in into the system.

I probably did.

Yeah. You're like, can I— at one point I want to go with a younger guy to a snack convention for his chip company in Anaheim. No, but like, who knows? And maybe when you die here, that's when your actual body that's hooked up to a computer right now dies.

Right.

I don't know. I don't want to get into this too much.

Do people ever like question you? Like DM you?

Hey, are you okay? No, they actually— I'm serious.

I'm just being genuine.

I have a secret following. We're all starting religion, basically.

You guys are like, wow, what are we saying? Wait, what did you say, John?

I was thinking like—

That's Taylor.

It's more of a positive experience.

Taylor's the blonde and John's the Filipino guy.

Oh my God.

People get us confused a lot.

I was thinking it's more of a positive experience if it like allows you to see a world where things are possible and then it makes you believe in like our current reality that you're capable of those things.

Interesting. Everybody I've brought up to the fact that I may or may not try DMT this Sunday, everyone's like so positive about it.

They are.

Yeah.

Have you talked to some people outside of your circle?

Yeah. You went— where'd you go? I was at dinner last night. Okay. Two people.

Yeah.

I was like, I'm going to try DMT. I was actually, well, we went to Snack Convention yesterday in Anaheim.

Yes.

And two of the buyers that were there, or three of the buyers.

You didn't bring it up to the buyers.

Of course I did. You didn't. Yeah. I was like, I'm going to do DMT this weekend. And I guess I think I got the perfect crowd because they were really excited about it. They've never done it, but they've heard a lot about it. So they were like, you got to tell us what it's like. Wow.

Were they some of the older guys you were talking to?

Uh, no, they were like younger guys, like 40s.

Okay.

Okay. Yeah, yeah, it wasn't like 60s or 70s type of guys, but yeah, no, definitely guys that have been around that have heard of it and like, and haven't gotten a chance to try it. Right.

It's so interesting. You have like, you didn't just ask younger people, you had like—

no, I've asked a lot of people and no one's been like, stay away from it.

Right.

And that Natalie was like, why don't you just do like at a later time, like And I'm like, I don't want to overthink this. Yeah, I just like kind of fall into it. I just want to go.

Yeah, I don't think it's the right time, but yeah, I don't think it's the right time either. I don't think it's the right time for you.

I'm about to start vlogging more. Yeah.

Like, what if this completely changes your perspective on vlogs?

Yeah, but the way I see it is whatever it does, let's say I find out I have to move to LA, I move out of LA. Yeah. And move to like a small town. In Slovakia, yeah, that's what I'm going to want. So it doesn't matter. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? It doesn't matter. Oh, like all of a sudden I don't like YouTube. Cool. I don't like it anymore, period. That is the feeling I am feeling. Therefore, it does not matter. You know what I mean?

Are you searching for something? No, no, no, no, no, no, you're not.

I'm just saying, like, whatever, whatever happens, whatever I'm feeling at the end of it is what I'm gonna want.

Okay, so this could affect all of us. You guys hear that, right?

Yes, it could.

So this trilogy is actually kind of porn.

Very good point, Taylor. Something I've been thinking about.

Um, yeah, what if there's no more pod?

What if you're like, Jay, or what if I'm like, I want to do video pod? What if I'm like, I want people to see me?

I want daily pod.

Yeah, I want daily pod. I want Daily Pod.

I want to hang with Jason more.

I want comedian guests on.

Yeah, yeah, that'd be crazy. All those people Jason wanted to book. Yeah, that'd be crazy. I'm gonna hang out with Charlie and Wyatt more.

Yeah, you never know this. I mean, yeah, but yeah, okay, that's all for that conversation. Yes, we'll see you hopefully the next pod if I don't chicken out. Is, is it?

Yeah, I don't think you're gonna like it. I think you're gonna be like, uh, That was dumb.

I've never liked any drug. I'm not a big fan of mushrooms. I just get dizzy and I get this like feeling in the back of my throat that I just don't love.

Yeah.

Um, and then Molly, I'm also not the biggest fan of. I actually refuse to do Molly just because of the comedown. Mm-hmm. So I don't know. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not a drug guy at all. Weed I don't even love because I just eat too much. There's never been a drug where I've been like, yes, let's go.

I wonder, I wonder if you—

but I thought DMT is supposed to be just like a one-time thing.

Oh yeah, so there's two ways you can purchase it. So you could get it through like a vape. This guy has it like you can, or you can just get the powder. Mm-hmm. Vape's a little more expensive, but it's— I think it's less potent. And I don't want to tell people because I'm only gonna do this shit once. Yeah, and I don't wanna be like, I vaped it.

Some people microdose it.

Yeah, yeah, I'm— no, I want to do it the proper way, the real way, just once, and that's it. Goodbye.

One drug that really freaks me out is ketamine. I hear people do that a lot. My friend did ketamine, and he said he could be at a party, and he could look at his friends way across the room and hear what they're saying. He said he could tap into some other kind of frequency.

Yeah, I think what's going on there is I think he was standing right next to them.

Maybe.

But I think they felt like they were far away.

I can't do— I can't think about doing drugs anymore. I'm just— it actually— my brain starts to like— when you talk about drugs, my head starts to hurt.

No, I don't.

I have like flashbacks of bad ones. Do you ever get like that when people talk about drugs? You're like, you get like a little flashback?

That's how I feel when I smoke weed.

Yeah.

The thing I like about weed is like being paranoid.

Yeah, the fact that you like that, that's crazy, dude, because it's not real.

Why do you like feeling paranoid?

Because it's like the strongest feeling that I have. When I'm smoking weed. It's like having a nightmare. Like, usually nightmares are better than dreams because nightmares are like, you remember them more. And like, when I'm paranoid on weed, I'm just like, this is crazy, but I know this isn't gonna last. But like, you're like freaking out way more than you would be like having a good time. I don't know, I just think like that like side of it is like so much crazier.

I have so much anxiety that I would never want more anxiety.

Yeah, exactly.

I'm such an anxious person. Like, I don't want to like walk outside and be paranoid. Sure. I'm saying like in my living like either the walls are caving in or like someone's about to break in or I heard something outside. That is kind of interesting to me. Yeah, I don't want to like be paranoid, like out in the public because I already would genuinely be paranoid at a party. So I don't think that would be fun.

I had a beta blocker yesterday.

You were talking about that.

It was incredible.

What is it?

Oh, it's like it's— I don't think it's called a beta blocker and it like just helps your anxiety because normally when I go out to shoot, I'm like, I'm so nervous.

Yeah, but how did you take it?

I just put it under my tongue and it dissolves. It's like a little— almost like a little candy. It was great.

But it's like a pharmaceutical. It's like something you get over the counter.

I don't know.

You have to talk to your therapist or something to get it?

Yeah. How did you acquire this?

A psychiatrist?

Your wife can get you anything, bro. I'm not sure.

That's crazy.

I'm not sure if it's legal or not. You sure?

I think it's legal.

You sure it wasn't DMT?

No, but shit.

You sure it wasn't like a molly or something?

No, it wasn't that. No, it was just—

it just—

completely took all that anxiety of a day of shooting away.

Wow.

That feeling of like, oh my God, I have to do this. Oh, if it doesn't come out good, it's not gonna be good.

Jay, that's— that's— I feel like I need that when we watch 3 movies in a day. Oh my God, my anxiety shoots up.

Why do you get so stressed out?

I don't know, dude. I can't tell you why.

It just gives me so much anxiety when you watch movies, dude.

He goes, when we have to get mad if somebody like goes to the bathroom. That's how—

that's how— why he's—

oh yeah, that's how why he's weird about Oh, that's not what's making you upset?

No, he's like anxious about it because he's just like doing nothing. Yeah, he's like, he's doing nothing.

Well, that I get.

Yeah, I'm— but like Natalie's right there and Natalie's like, Natalie's on her phone all day answering emails and this is like the— it's her one thing that she loves doing is just like sitting on the couch and doing nothing. And we're always like, John, what the fuck are you stressed about?

Yeah, that's like the one time we're actually doing absolutely nothing. We don't have to do anything, you know.

And every time we finish a movie, John's like, no more, no more. And it's only because he has to go upstairs to play Ark Raiders.

That's not true.

With his new friend he made.

That is not true.

Me and Alex get so mad.

That is—

wait, John has a new friend?

Are you fucking playing with Asian Mike?

That is not true.

Yeah, dude, you look—

John, you're jealous.

Yeah, of course you're jealous. Yeah, it's fucking bullshit. Not only that, but we'll be playing Call of Duty. Yeah. And and we'll like be in our lobby waiting for our game to start, and John will switch over his screen to his other game and play it like in the downtime while, while when we're in the waiting lobby when, when our game's loading. It's fucking bullshit.

Okay, I do do that, but everything else is not true.

Well, the other day John goes, hey guys, I think we're hanging out too much, and we all were really offended.

He was like, we need a little break from each other. Yeah, he's like, he's like, we need a reset. I'm like, what the fuck you mean we need a reset? Like, what are you, my girlfriend? Genuinely, like, what is that? We need to reset.

Even Julia was like, what?

Why would you say that, John?

I don't know, dude.

It's just— I think it's just because I'm not used to being constantly surrounded by people. And like, and like, David, like, really, like, choked me on that one. You know what I mean?

You have a huge family.

I know, I know. But I like being alone. Something about it.

No, you don't. No, you don't. You don't like being alone, you fucking loser.

Wait, only for like a little bit.

Just a little bit. Just enough to wonder.

Like, I get FOMO watching 3 movies. Stress you out that much?

It's just something about it, man.

I don't know.

Because, you know, Sunday after DMT, we have to watch 2 Lord of the Rings, motherfucker. And that's 7 hours of film.

Yeah, I don't know if that's possible.

I didn't put that— I didn't put that together.

I did get really antsy during the last Lord of the Rings. Yeah, it was just—

it was a lot.

3 and a half hours is too long.

Yeah, I get it.

But for anything, 7 hours, Jay, not 3 and a half, 7 hours.

Yeah, we're gonna split it with Olive Garden in the middle. All right, dude, I hope we get the same waiter fucking that we got last time at Olive Garden. This guy, I think he was genuine. I think he's going back in the kitchen and waving a wand and then bringing the food back. The shit was coming so quickly, I had no idea how he was making it. It got— we got out of there in like 30 minutes. Salad, refill of salad, another refill of salad, refill of drinks. Yeah.

Did you appreciate that?

Of course.

I can't tell which one's faster, that one or the, uh, the other restaurant we went in.

Yeah, definitely that one.

There is no one who eats faster than David I've never met in my entire life.

No, like, this place, like, served food— like, when we ordered, the next second it was already there.

Wow. We went to a restaurant, I think we were underdressed.

Yeah, and I think—

no, no, he's talking about another one. There's like two spots that are competing for the fastest service.

Yeah, yeah.

And this other one, what was it called?

Castellina.

Castellina. I think we were a little underdressed and they're like, okay, yeah, we have a table. And they got us out of there. I'm not even— which is our dream, at least mine, to leave in like 35 minutes. I'm not even kidding.

It was less than that, I'm pretty sure.

Yeah.

The valet guy looked at me.

The valet guy didn't take my car back yet.

Yeah. He was so confused when I was like, here's the ticket. He looked at me like he didn't even like touch the car yet. Like, that's how fast we were in and out. David didn't even get his second Diet Coke.

I think it's funny when you go This is— I struggle with this when you sit down at a restaurant and then the waiter makes contact and then right away my instinct is to order, but then that's rude to everybody else. Some people like to take a minute.

Oh yeah.

Do you do that? Do you like to take a minute or you're ready to go?

No, I don't care if I get my food wrong. I want to order immediately.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, no, no.

Most people want to sit with the menu a second. So then I'll be like, let's, let's order. And they'll be like, hey, hang on, let's Dude, give us a second.

I didn't know you were like that. Huh? I didn't know you were like— I didn't know there were more people like me.

I am. I am more like you because I do that shit.

Natalie, or like— no, Natalie. Natalie's the one. Natalie will always turn to me and she'll be like, excuse me, and she'll like fucking do her like weird like little tone where she like talks down. Yeah. And she'll get so mad about it all the time.

Well, we're talking about food.

Yeah. I'll be like, I don't care. Like, I genuinely— I don't And also, like, I'm pretty easy when it comes to reading the menu. Like, I'm never going to— like, I'm just looking for the words bolognese, cheeseburger, or—

yeah, you only eat like 4 things—

or pizza. Yeah. So like, yes, selfishly, I have the menu. Like, I have it down immediately. Sure. But yeah, I love ordering right away.

That stresses me out.

I don't know if it's rude to the waiter either.

In my mind, the waiter just wants the order. They're ready to go. They're just turning the table.

I think it just depends. Right. Like some waiters have so many tables going on that they can only take your drink.

Yeah.

And then they're going to come back to you because they're also serving the other table. It just depends where you are in the flow of being, you know, I used to be a waiter, Jay, so I know all about this.

Oh, I know. At the old folks home.

Yeah.

I'm going— I've been going to the same— what do you think of this? I go to the same restaurant every day for 5 days in a row.

Which one?

Great White.

Why didn't it just open?

Yeah, it just opened. I just love it. They see me in there and they're like, oh, well, you really like it here.

Yeah, does that feel kind of weird to you?

It does feel weird.

Like, do you get embarrassed when you like, when you like, like a place so much?

Yeah, like you're kind of like a groupie to the restaurant. Yeah, completely. And I'm talking about I'm getting like breakfast and dinner.

Oh yeah, yeah, no, that would stress me out. I'd be like embarrassed to keep going in.

Yeah, I almost am. When Naveen was gone last week, I just kept going there because I just liked it so much.

You just went on your own?

Yeah, I would get takeout. I took my friend Jeff there to eat.

Wait, why don't you order from— why don't you order from the place and then Just eat at home.

I do do that. I did that too, but I still go have to go pick it up because I do it on in-kind. So I wouldn't postmate from there.

Oh, that's because you're getting discounts there. Yeah. Oh, dude. That makes sense.

Yeah, getting big discounts. Yeah, that's it.

I love it. It's like my parents, we'd only get Little Caesars when the little coupons would come in.

Yeah.

Even though Little Caesars was like already max discounted.

Yeah.

So listen, I've been talking about this new vlog style for a while. And we're filming the first one this week. It's going to be more laid back vlog.

Okay. Are you filming it or someone else filming it?

No, I'm going to have someone else film it.

Okay.

I'm not going to touch the camera for this new one.

Okay.

And I think what I'm going to do is I've already been talking to, like, a couple of editors. Yeah. I think I'm going to send all the footage to 4 different editors. Oh, wow. And I'm just going to just tell them to make a vlog. Oh, and I'm going to watch the 4 and then we're just going to choose one.

Oh, wow.

I think that's what's going to happen.

Okay.

Okay. So I really want to find an editor and a filmer. We already have. But like, yeah, I just want it to be where I'm not touching any of that.

You're going to give them any direction?

No, no, no.

Damn. It's like a college class.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So we're going to Rio de Janeiro.

I know. I can't believe how long I looked to see how long the flight was. I was like, what?

The flight's like—

what is it long?

I think it's like 20 hours.

No, 20 hours.

Yeah, it's at least 14 or 15.

Oh, sorry. Yeah, 14, 15. And a layover.

Bali's 20 hours. Um, how can it be that far? Is it gonna be warm?

Yes. Okay, it's gonna be warm. I just— it'll be like a little tropical rainy. Have you been?

No.

Oh, have you been? Have you been to South America?

No, I don't think so. I've been to Costa Rica. That's it.

Have you been to Colombia?

No.

Oh wow, okay.

Yeah, you've been to Rio?

I've been to Rio, but it was part of like our world trip, so like we didn't get to like Rio it up, you know?

What do you mean?

Like we went there for like 2 or 3 days.

Okay.

This time, and it was in the middle of like 14 countries.

Got it.

So this time we're going just to Rio. We're bringing like a bigger group with us. And yeah, so, so basically the way I'm filming is I'm filming it on— I usually film on the Canon 80D. Yeah, I'm going to film this on the FX3. It's a little higher quality camera. Like you need to color correct the footage, all that boring stuff that I have no idea how to do. Yeah. So I'm going to have a filmer film it. And yeah, I'm just going to give off all of it. No editing notes to these. Like, I just want to be able to post consistently and not worry about the edit. Like I said, paralysis analysis. I keep using this word because I've just figured it out and I have so much of it. And just with the podcast, I have no paralysis analysis.

Yeah.

Because I don't know what these episodes sound like after I leave this fucking room. I just ask Natalie, I'm like, is it good? Are you sure? And then that's it. And I really like that.

You're like Matthew McConaughey.

Oh, watching Interstellar once? Yeah. Different quality. Views Podcast versus Interstellar are two different forms of entertainment or media. But yeah, no, I really like that. I think it's just going to allow me to make more stuff.

I'm just not convinced you're going to be able to let go. I'd be shocked.

I'm just scared for the people getting the feedback because you're pretty meticulous.

Yeah, I'm really nervous about that because also like all my life everybody's like, everybody's like, what's the most important part of like making a vlog? And I'm like, it's the editing. It's all in the edit. Like anybody can put together a fucking vlog. Yeah, but you have to like, you have to edit it properly and I'm letting that go. I feel like counterintuitive and like really stupid. Yeah, like I have to. Okay, I have to.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think that's good. I think you'll be a lot happier.

Yeah, but you're right. I'm worried that like I'm not going to be able to— it's going to— it's going to— I'm not going to be able to let it go.

What's real like?

It's really— so the one time we went, we went out and they're like, I can only speak on my one night there. And I'm going to just group this into the whole culture because I don't know. I don't know. This is what I experienced. But everybody there loves making out. Oh, it's like a big thing. And like, they make out like they— like they do group— like, I think you like talk to someone for like 5, 10 minutes and they'll be like, you want to make out? I think it's like a regular part of like going out. Oh, wow.

Yeah.

Damn.

And then they also love shaking ass.

Really?

Like, to like any song. Like, even if you like, in your head it's like, oh, this isn't like a song to shake your butt to, they can figure it out. It's really, it's, it's really like, it is kind of like, I don't know, it's really interesting.

They like dancing, right?

Yes. But it wasn't just dancing. It was specifically like a lot of butt movement.

Twerking?

No, it was like twerking. It was damn near twerking. Yeah.

Oh, I was thinking like more like ballroom.

Well, we were with like a group of like a couple of Rio de Janeiro people from Rio, Brazil.

Rio de Janeiro.

Rio de Janeiro. And, and yeah, once the music came on, like something went right over them. They weren't even making eye contact. It wasn't even like, you know, like when you're dancing, you're like looking at a friend and you're like, kind of like, yeah, yeah. But they were like, just like looking at their own ass and making sure it was shaking properly. I was so— the music took over them. Completely.

Yeah.

Everybody was in their own individual world. There wasn't even like a group, like DMT. It was like a DMT for ass shaking.

Yeah.

No, I don't know.

They seem fun.

You know who will be fun there is Zane.

Oh, they will be incredible.

He loves to dance.

Zane's coming with us. Taylor's coming with us. Yeah. Um, Natalie's here. I was just telling Jay how everyone in Brazil shakes their ass. Oh yeah.

Yeah.

And how they love making out.

Love making out.

Yeah. Did you guys make out with anybody when you were there?

Yes.

Yeah, I did make out with someone.

You did?

It's very like— it's very normal, really. It's like—

it's like—

it's like almost like saying hello, like putting beads on someone at Mardi Gras, honestly.

Yeah.

I also don't know if it was like the group you were with or was like normal.

I mean, the guy that I— that I was walking to the bathroom one night in Brazil, like the popular club, and I'm super drunk or whatever, and I'm walking like by myself and this guy is like, Natalie? And I thought it was someone that I knew because I was just drunk or whatever. And he was like talking to me for 2 seconds and he goes, I have to show you the Brazilian way, and just grabs my face and starts making out with me.

That's fucking wild.

Insane. And then I was like, okay, this is crazy. Was he cute? Yeah, he was really cute. So I obviously let it happen. Wow. Yeah, I don't know. And then he like came to the bathroom. I was like, I'm going to the bathroom and then I'm meeting up with my friends. He's like, where are your friends? And I was like, oh, they're over there. And he's like, okay, I'll with you, and then you, you come party with me and my friends. Like, we're happy, we have a whole table, whatever. And I was like, okay. And then once I got into the bathroom, I just kind of like sobered up, and I was like, for a second I was like, wait, this is like crazy. I'm not gonna just go run off with this like strange, strange Brazilian man. So I like left. I like snuck out of the bathroom, like went back to my friends. The next—

fucking ditched him?

Yeah, I ditched him.

Well, how'd you get out of the bathroom?

I'm gonna go with my friends.

I was just drunk. I like, I just like was like, bye.

Fucking blew a hole in the back of the bathroom.

He thought he died in there.

Gotta get out of here.

But then the next day we decided, we're like, okay, it's our last day in Brazil. We're like, we have to go out. And I remember I went back.

Oh, you went out two nights in a row?

Two nights in a row.

Oh wow.

And I remember I went back to the table that first night and I told David and Ilya, I was like, I just made out with a man. Like you guys missed it. You know, whatever. This was back when I like hadn't kissed many people.

Yeah. And back When I was in a whore.

Now I'm a makeout bandit. Um, no. And then the next day we go to this other club, and I'm walking into the club and I hear Natalie, and it's the same fucking guy that I made out with the night before.

Wow.

He's there again at this new place, completely new place.

Oh my God.

And he was like, you owe me another kiss. Starts making out, starts making out with me again.

And I checked all the stalls for you.

I thought you beard and died.

The Brazilian way.

And then I, and I hear David and Ilya behind me like, dude, what the fuck, she's like making out with a guy. Like, because they didn't know it was the same guy from the night before. It was, yeah, fun story. So I'm really excited to go back.

Are you guys gonna stay out all night and then waste the days?

No.

Okay.

No, no, that's definitely not what these new vlogs are.

Okay.

No, no, it's actually—

What time are you gonna go to sleep at night?

Like 9.

Because this is the thing, when I travel with you guys, it's like sometimes you guys stay out really late And then I wake up at like 8 AM and then I don't see you guys till like 5 o'clock.

No, no, no, no. It's actually like, that's why I'm excited for these vlogs because it's actually opposite. It is like there's going to be like a lot of daytime activities.

Okay.

It's going to be very chill. Okay. And we're getting to Rio on Monday or Tuesday?

Tuesday morning.

Tuesday morning. Oh damn. Yeah. So then we're going— yeah, we're not going out to like the weekend and like I'm making sure like from now on when I book any travel, I want to make sure that the weekend comes at the end, is at the end of our travels. We go out one time, we're hungover, getting on the plane, going home.

That's it.

Like, yeah, because being hungover like really does ruin a trip.

Ruins the whole trip.

I mean, Bangkok was fucking insane.

Yeah, I know.

That was— were you part of that?

No, I went to bed.

But he was there.

But I was a part of that when I would like walk around the hotel looking for you and they're like, still not up.

Yeah, we went out in Bangkok, didn't even get home. Such a crazy time. Yeah, you did. Really? Like what, 5 AM?

Yeah, like 5 or 6.

Yeah, it wasn't like we got home at like noon.

Oh, okay. Sorry.

Yeah, that would be fucking insane.

I see what you're saying.

But what we did was insane. We slept the next whole day.

By we, you mean you.

What?

I went to— Yeah, everybody else was up. It was you that slept the whole day.

No, Illya did too.

Okay, maybe.

I think Zane.

No, me and Zane were at the pool at the spot.

Okay, so me and Illya. Slept through the whole day and then that whole night and then woke up. Yeah. Which was 2 days later. Right. Fucking weird. I've never done it.

Plus the jet lag. Yeah.

Like we went out Friday night and woke up Sunday morning.

That's crazy.

Yeah. Fucking sucks.

Such a mindfuck.

It's such a mindfuck. And it's like, and I remember sleeping and I woke up first at like 2 PM and I was like, okay, it's way too early to wake up. Then slept. Then I accidentally slept till like 8 or 9 p.m. and I'm like, well, might as well just fucking send it. And then woke up the next day at like 10, 10 a.m. and I was like, okay, let's do it. So yeah, I don't want to do that anymore. I actually like, like I told you, I really like this, this not being drunk vibes. I love being healthy. I've been feeling really healthy the last couple of weeks. Yeah, like peak health. So I want to just keep that up. I'm excited to film. I've been, I've been, I've been really, really bored around the house, like really bored. I've been really bothering Natalie and Tay.

He's been like making up illnesses and stuff. He's like, oh, I woke up today and just this, this part of my body is really hurting. I think I have something. I'm like, bro, it's called boredom.

Well, yeah, it goes against what I just said. I said I've been feeling healthier than ever.

But you are healthy, but you'll be like, oh, my pinky hurts, I think I have whatever, who cares.

That's because I've I've been exercising a lot.

Um, but you have not, have you?

Yeah.

I've been playing in a paddle tournament. Oh yeah.

The paddle tournament has made me sore for the last week. I can't do anything. Um, but yeah, I've been incredibly bored. So I'm like really excited to like just start filming things again.

Wow.

It actually is really exciting to like pick up the camera and go do something.

But like, and not pick up the camera, not filming.

Well, someone's picking up the camera.

Someone's picking it up. I'll do it. But the first video, I'm really excited for the audience to be like, smash or pass.

Yeah, yeah.

The first video is gonna have to be like a big— it's gonna be a big judgment of like whether or not people like it.

It's Judgment Day, right?

I don't know, are you really gonna send it to 4 people?

I think so.

Send it to 4 people.

Yeah, I was telling him that I was gonna send the raw footage to like 4 or 5 different people.

Oh, to like edit and try?

Yeah, and then one day we just watch all the vlogs. That'll be really fun.

Yeah, that actually is really fun.

Yeah, that is really fun.

Picking who the winner is and then full-time editor.

I think you're creating more work for yourself.

The editing Olympics.

I don't think so.

I think you're going to get 5 vlogs that you're not happy with.

There's no fucking way.

Yeah, of course. Of course. Maybe one will be better than the other 4.

No, I think out of 5 vlogs, you're going to pick one that you're going to like.

Really?

Like, like, like that? No, like with edits and tweaks, but like one that's like—

I'm not tweaking anything. Either I'm editing the whole thing or I'm not fucking touching it. I don't even want to watch these before they're uploaded.

We're still in Delulu land.

Just fucking put them up. I'm done. I don't want to fucking look at anything.

Why do you say he's in Delulu land?

Because this is not realistic. Like, you can't go from 10 years of editing, producing, directing all your own shit and then just handing it to someone and thinking they're magically going to put together a masterpiece.

I don't think you could do it. Necessarily the way I want to. Yeah, but like, I think you're gonna do it your own way. Hey, can you explain to me why, why Daniel Day-Lewis is like such a crown jewel of actors?

Oh sure.

Why?

It's just the best.

Okay, I knew you're gonna say that. Why?

Because the way he can transform a character, the work he puts in—

What character has he done where I'm— where I should be blown away by? I'm not saying he's not, I'm just like—

Gangs of New York.

Okay, I haven't seen that.

Incredible.

Really?

Like, shut up.

Like, he, he's just like, he just transforms. Whereas you're watching that movie and you're like, okay, yeah, that's Leo. We love Leo, of course. But then you look over and he's opposite Daniel Day-Lewis and you're like, who the fuck is that?

Really? Yeah, he's that good.

Did you see him as Lincoln? Like, incredible.

I don't look at Leo and go like, yeah, that's Leo.

You don't?

I guess I do.

Even, even as much as I love like Bourne Identity, I loved it. It's Matt Damon. It's Matt Damon fighting and you're just kind of like, oh yeah, it's Matt Damon.

Like Daniel Day-Lewis as Abraham Lincoln in what, Lincoln? Yeah. Okay, I should watch it. Is that the one where he's a vampire hunter or is that a different thing?

No, this is like Spielberg's like actual, like, Lincoln.

Oh, I should watch this.

It's good.

Jason asked us yesterday who we want to have dinner with.

Yeah.

Alive or dead. Yeah. Or 3 people.

I was vibing yesterday.

Yeah, you were vibing because you had those beta blockers. Taylor goes— Taylor's first person was Abraham Lincoln. Well, which is, like, cool, but, like, it's just like, what is that? That you were like, Abraham Lincoln is obviously one of the greatest of all time, right? In terms of, like, famous presidents. But, like, what the fuck?

Well, what is— yeah, what— that is an interesting answer for Taylor.

That is. I don't know. It was the first person that came to mind.

Were we just naming a famous one?

Look, I did. Natalie said Marilyn Monroe. She came to mind as well. But then I wanted to say someone who lived so beyond our time.

I think I had the best ones.

Oh, yeah. David Bowie.

Well, yeah, you stole all the good ones.

How?

I didn't steal. I just crowned myself in the car. I was like, wow, my dinner is the best out of all of yours and Natalie's. Of course, King David, your answer is the best.

There's no superior.

You go first. I'm going to save mine for last because mine is So good.

Who did I have?

Yeah, who did you have?

I had Marilyn Monroe.

Okay.

I had— oh, Emma Greed. Yeah, she's the person that started like Good American and Skims and stuff.

I said you should just call and see if she'll have dinner with you.

Okay, cool.

Oh yeah, I'm down.

Uh, I don't— well, I don't know. Um, and then who was my third?

I don't know if you had a third.

I mean, no offense to Marilyn Monroe, but mine are going to fucking blow those away. My— if you're— but this is like a question that you've like prepared your whole life for. You're at dinner with these people next to my dinner. You're going to be looking over at my table like, what are they talking about? What are they talking about?

It's one restaurant with all your dinners and it's just Tay and Abraham Lincoln in the corner.

Abe's like, Tay, why didn't you invite anybody else?

If I was being honest and I was like, okay, these are the people that I would actually enjoy. I know I'm going to have a really great time.

You're changing your answer now?

Did you say yours yet? No, not yet.

I'm saving mine for last. Okay.

But David, if I even said one person that was in your 3, like, you'd be like, well, you can't even have your own thoughts, Taylor.

Okay.

All right.

All right. Let me say my 3, cuz I feel like it's gonna slip out somewhere. My 3. Yeah. Is Jesus Christ.

Yeah.

Come on.

Yeah. The actual goat.

Okay. Yeah. The goat. The goat. The goat of everything. Bob Lazar. Who's like an alien whistleblower from Area 51. And obviously Jesus Christ can confirm whatever Bob Lazar has to say. And you don't actually really need anybody other than Jesus Christ because that kind of covers everything. And then just to triple confirm, Barack Obama. What a group.

Any questions you ever want.

Any questions you've ever wanted.

I mean, I think the conversation would just be about— it would just be Jesus. It would be Bob, you, and Barack. Like, you're not talking about anything else but like Jesus's life and—

Yeah, but I think having an intellectual, especially like Barack there, to ask Jesus questions. Mine are gonna be surface level. Like, what is the floor like in heaven? Is it clouds or is it marble? Right. Are they heated? What's the temperature? Mine are gonna be like that. Barack's gonna be like more like, you know, gonna be more guided and it's gonna make more sense. And then Bob Lazar is just obviously gonna be like, By the way, have you seen aliens? And then Jesus will be like, chill, Bob. And I'll be like, why?

Why?

Why chill, Bob? And then Jesus will be like, well, everybody knows there's aliens. I made them. And then Barack will be like, well, how did you make them? I think we'll just talk forever.

Do you think the conversation would ever turn to you and your life? Yeah, I think he's going to give a bunch of advice.

I think he's going to want to know about—

You too.

About Vine. How was meeting King Bach?

Yeah.

VidCon, what was it like when it was at its peak? Jesus is going to be super curious. He wasn't at Playlist Live, but I was.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, okay. So who are your new 3, Nat?

I kind of want to throw Kylie Jenner into the mix. I feel like she'd be like a great, fun dinner person.

You and Marilyn Monroe. You just want to gossip?

I just want to have a good time.

Yeah.

I guess I could.

Yeah, that's what I'm torn on. Do I want to like find something out? Do I want to have a good time?

Obviously you want to find something out. What do you mean?

I don't know if I do.

I'd love to have dinner with Kylie just as much as the next guy, but that's not like— I'm not choosing. Natalie, did you just hear my 3? Jesus Christ.

I can't compete with your 3.

Your 3, like—

See, I'm the best.

It's not better, it's just different.

I don't know if I want to know about— like, I don't know if I want to discover what's not been discovered, you know?

She's gonna be flipping out in that restaurant.

Like, you think, like, too many people are gonna be asking for pictures?

Yeah, that, and also just like the menu and like how decadent the food is and the lights.

The good thing is the second we get the water, we have the wine, which would be really nice. Second it comes.

Uh, I'd go Larry David, Dave Chappelle, Howard Stern.

Knew it. I knew you were gonna say that. Yeah. Anyway, I'm still winning. Jesus Christ trumps all.

No way. My dinner is gonna be so fun. It's gonna be Dave Chappelle making us laugh the entire time. Oh my God. We're gonna be looking over at you like, oh my God, those guys are having such an awkward conversation.

You're gonna be giggling and my mouth's gonna be wide open 'cause Jesus is gonna be telling me about how the universe started. It just, okay, sorry, I'm not gonna keep comparing my things to you guys. Taylor, who are your other two other than Abraham Lincoln?

Oh man, I knew this was coming.

So what did you think?

I don't know.

You obviously have really great ones, but I kind of like, I obviously want your table.

Do you want to come sit at ours? Yes, please.

I'll bring Abe.

I'll bring Abe.

I feel like no.

Can me and Abe sit here?

That's a table.

I don't even know what to ask Abe anymore. I don't know who to pair him with where he'd feel comfortable.

What about Theo?

Theo, probably.

So, tell me about Theo. MrBeast? I don't know.

I have no idea.

Abraham Lincoln and MrBeast.

Oh my god.

All right, Ill, let's see if you can beat mine. I'm currently in the lead, self-proclaimed number one champion. Dead or alive, you can choose 3 people to have dinner with you. Who are you choosing? Marshall Mathers, Eminem. Okay, Eminem. That's a good one.

Really good. Um, I smell wood burning.

Bill Gates. Bill Gates. Yeah. Okay. And David Dobrik.

Oh, that's fun.

Oh, this one actually may be mine. That's a vibe.

That is a vibe.

That's what you would lock in? Probably, because I want a friend there.

Otherwise it'd be kind of fucking awkward. That's a really good point. That's what I worry about with my dinner is like, are they just not talking to me the whole time?

All right, that's all. Thanks.

I don't like you guys hanging out with older guys. I saw you, you got an old guy in your videos now.

Oh yeah, Rod.

Yeah, I was like, who's this guy? And then yesterday you were at the convention.

Oh, I saw this. I saw, you know what? Yeah, I saw Ilya hang out with his older friend Rod. Yeah. And I went through this whole thing in my head. I was like, what if I like set up a hangout day with Rod?

Yeah.

And like fed him like really good— he's funny— like fed him really good jokes that you'd find really funny. Yeah. I wonder if you'd genuinely be hurt by that. 100%. What are you talking about?

Really?

Yeah. Jay's the old guy. I mean, it's like, would that like hurt? Like if there was another old guy that came and was like, I'm sure you'd like him for the first day.

I bet. I mean, I like him a lot actually. I talked to him. That's really, really funny. I mean, he's like, he's great.

But if he, but if he became like a recurring guy in like a video, like, would you be mad?

I'm not.

If I was like, Rod, you got to do the podcast with us again. And it's like the fourth day.

Yeah, probably.

Really? Yeah. Oh, okay.

But I'm not that jealous either though.

Wait, why did you not like me talking to older people the other day?

Well, I'm like partially kidding, but I saw you at the convention and you were like, you were like goofing around with a bunch of older guys because they're all like buyers or whatever and like having a good time.

Yeah.

So I turned into me and I was like, I was like, man, I don't like that at all.

I was one of the older guys. I was talking to a bunch of firefighters there. Yeah. And they fought in the— they fought the Palisades fire. So like, yeah, the biggest fire in Los Angeles. And we talked about that for like, I don't know, 2 minutes, 3 minutes. And then he's like, you got to tell me about what you do, like how What's content creation like? And it's like— and I actually for like 20 seconds tried to explain it to them. I was like, so like, yeah, you supposed 3 times a week. And then I was like, what the fuck am I doing?

Yeah.

Like explaining to firefighters.

So you didn't save any lives though?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I didn't know. Like, I felt like a fucking loser. But he was so interested. Sure. But I was like, I couldn't even— I don't know. It was like— and I wasn't even like trying to be like humble about it on purpose. I was just— I was genuinely like, This is like, so like, I feel I sound like an idiot, like describing to you how my YouTube schedule is like. He was like, so you wake up and you do what? I'm like, I wake up like noon and then I see— and I was like, my job's kind of to like have fun. Meanwhile, this guy's like fucking in a cloud of smoke, pulling out people from burning buildings. So it was just like, yeah, that was like, it was pretty crazy to have that conversation. Yeah.

That was overwhelming, that SNAC convention.

Yeah.

I liked you in the car. You were like, you're like, I don't want to go. And then you got there and you're like turning on the charm. We were all laughing.

Conventions are really tough. Like, why? Because so we'll go to these conventions and, um, they'll be— because we have a chip company called Wavers, and, um, it's just tough because you'll be having a conversation with one person and then you'll get pulled away for another.

Yeah.

And that is my least favorite thing in all of human being conversations ever. Like, I hate being pulled away because I just like don't know who do I give my attention to. Like, that's— it's just like so rude. And it's like there's nothing you can do about it because there are a lot of people to talk to. And I'm such a big the guy on like finishing a conversation like on the right note. And like when I don't have that moment, I'm just like pulled away and like I have to like find a way to say goodbye and like it just like really frustrates me. That is what those conventions are a lot of the time. It's like, it's like hopping from person to person and like making sure like—

Did you get to fill up on snacks?

No, I didn't walk around this time.

Oh my God, I ate so much.

Which, thank God.

It was great. It was natural foods. So that was so fun.

Yeah, but I went to the sweets and, uh, sweet snack convention. Yeah, in, um, I think— I don't know where it was. It was in a different state, Ohio, somewhere. I don't remember anything. Um, but like, it was all the brands there. Like, I'm talking like Frito-Lay. So like, you had your Hot Cheetos, you had like— you had like your Hostess.

That's what I thought it was gonna be like.

No, so this one was the organic one. Yeah, so everything was like fairly healthy, right? But this other one was like the fucking candies, like the real, like heavy hitters, top of the charts, number one in their category, like Fruit Gushers, fucking Skittles, Starburst, you know, like all the big guys. I don't know, I'm a big believer in candy and, and, uh, chips should not be healthy. Like, I just don't— I, I don't know. Wavers, we are like— we just switched over to avocado oil. Like, we are very, very healthy alternative to snacks. Um, but I keep telling like the team there, I was like, we need to just fucking go the other way, at least for one bag of chips. Like, we need to have a specific version that's just fucking absolutely delicious and addicting and dyed in every single fucking color and, and it's just breaking all the guidelines for what it is to be a healthy snack. Just send it, because I think that's what, that's what snacks ought to be sometimes.

What do they say when you suggest that?

You know, they're in the snack industry, like, you know, real recognize real. Like, they know that that's necessary to some extent, right? Like, I saw when they were, like, when Hot Cheetos were taking away the Red 40 Yeah. And it's the same taste, but the Hot Cheetos no longer red. It's like, what? Oh, no. Like, fucking color my insides red. I want my fingers red. I don't know. Like, it's like it just doesn't make any sense.

But then when you're a brand and you're known as healthy, you can't do that. You can't. You can't have different.

Oh, yeah. No, I don't think we can.

Right.

But I'm just saying, I don't like when, like, a brand like Hot Cheetos— I don't think Hot Cheetos will ever take away the Red 40 or like whatever, change their colors.

Yeah.

So I think we're fine. But like, yeah, I just urge companies to please stay true to who you are and don't make healthy alternatives. There's so much healthy food out there, so much healthy food. So like, if you, if you're, you know, if you need to choose, you can pick, you can pick healthy food. There are alternative options. Please don't also try to play in those categories. Stick to your, stick to who you are. Believe in yourself, Hot Cheetos.

We went to a healthy convention, like most healthy stuff ever. And then I got in the car and Natalie had a Hot dog.

She's the only person to find a hot dog in the convention. Yeah, yeah, covered in mayo.

Yeah, I was like, where'd you cover the mayo and corn?

I was like, what the fuck? Um, yeah, so, but yeah, new Wavers Hot Cheeto— Hot Freaking Hot, um, flavor is going to be released soon in the summertime.

Oh, fun. Um, oh, I had that yesterday. It's really good.

That's my favorite flavor of Wavers. It was really good, which is kind of shocking because I I think nothing could beat late night pizza in my opinion. I pound those things down like crazy.

I know, but I've had them so frequently.

It's good to have a little mix it up.

Yeah.

Okay, guys, well, that's all the time we have for today's pod. Thank you everybody for listening. If everything goes well, the next pod will be the one.

Yeah. Am I going to be here for that?

Yeah.

Are we going to pod during it or report after?

We're going to pod during it.

Oh my God.

If we do it, if I end up doing it, I don't know if I'm all talk. And then when it's in front of me, I'll be scared. So I'm still giving myself the opportunity to opt out. Yeah, but if I do do it, I'm going to pot it from front to back.

Tuesday will be amazing.

See you for Tuesday for DMT Tuesday. Bye, guys.