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I had some— I had someone in my life who was gay, and they were gay until they were about 20. They didn't—
they were gay about 25, huh? I thought they decided, I don't want to be gay anymore.
No, no. And and we all knew they were gay, and they had a boyfriend who was their friend.
Sure.
And we all just went along with it. Like, you don't know what it was like when I was my age, like before the '90s. Being gay was like, that was really taboo.
Sure, but I think, first of all, Katie, I have a feeling—
But they probably know is my point.