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It was just kind of like, oh, they're not married.
And is it just because it wasn't a thing?
I guess it just wasn't accepted. Wasn't accepted at all. Something weird really— something weird happened, like right when Ellen got her TV show and she came out of the closet, then like it was— it was honestly in my lifetime. I think you were too young, but…
What my friend said—
well, my sister was in high school, she was tortured for being gay.
Oh, are you serious?
Oh yeah, it was awful. Like made fun of and like prank calls to the house and like they had like restraining orders against like a group of girls who would call and tease her. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was bad.