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When you, when you were growing up, were there a lot of gay people? Because you're just—
no. Yeah, there were, and they were in the closet. Like, I had people in my family that were— that are gay, but they were never expressed to me to be gay.
And why is that?
It was just kind of like, oh, they're not married.
And is it just because it wasn't a thing?
I guess it just wasn't accepted. Wasn't accepted at all. Something weird really— something weird happened, like right when Ellen got her TV show and she came out of the closet, then like it was— it was honestly in my lifetime. I think you were too young, but…
What my friend said—