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You know, it's just everywhere.
And how bad was it before, when you were growing up? Like, was it, I don't know.
I was kind of lucky 'cause I got married young.
Yeah.
So, you know.
But you had a job, you had a serious job. You must have faced it in the workplace.
Yeah, I did, but, well, I was in cosmetics, which is a woman's industry.