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But I mean, like, selling out Carnegie Hall is not—
what is that?
Because I think it's like 3,000 people, 4,000 people.
Okay, that's still pretty fucking impressive.
In the audience was a producer who saw it and said, okay, I'll make your next album. And that was his big thing. He could— he didn't— he never found a producer. And that producer made like Scenes from an Italian Restaurant. He made The Stranger, basically. It…
How much do you think, like, when it comes to an artist like that, like, how much of it is luck?
None of it.