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Actually, Simon Cowell does. He produced, like, major hits.
Well, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you're fucked. Piers brought up Piers Morgan.
Sure.
Big judge on AGT.
No, no, America's Got Talent I feel like is different. Like Howie Mandel, he's not a musician, but he's— he's—
but he's come up as like— he's like a— he's like paid his dues as an entertainer for like 30 years. Sure, sure.