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No, it's not really about that. It's more so just like, I'm gonna keep your mouth shut and be our like little mannequin for the most part until you get to a certain level and then you start doing podcasts.
So this is the next level. Wow.
So you start like expressing yourself and just fucking opening your mouth and talking about things and being more of a personality than— yeah, modeling is pretty much just being someone else's vision and just being a doll.
And how'd you get your start?
My who?
Your start. Your start. Well, it's just a simple question. It's just a basic question, but I'm interested. How old are you?
Um, so my first kind of gig that like got me like a bit of a following, notoriety, I was 16 and I was actually got my like job in retail working at Brandy Melville. You remember Brandy Melville? Of course.