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Oh, really?
Yeah. Where he's like, Bob Dylan's like, people ask me how those songs came to me, and what they really want to ask is, why didn't they come to them?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, it's, it's, it's true.
It's really crazy. Yeah. And, and, and yeah, that was kind of like, that's kind of, that was kind of my takeaway from it. I mean, what else?
He used to play soccer or anything?
Hacky sack? No, we just talked to him and I asked him, I was like, why don't you do more TikToks? Because this was like during my, during like my heavy TikTok era where I was like, like 2 2 or 3 a day. I wasn't asking him for him to be in one of mine. I was j…