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yeah, in like a comfortable way.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, like, he's like in— like, he's into the conversation. He's not like trying to crack jokes all the time.
No.
But he's always like— like, he's always like— he's interested in what you're talking about. Yeah, he's a cool guy, which is awesome. Um, but I'm bringing that up because, um, my assistant was supposed to clean out the car beforehand.
Oh my God. And now the canola oil.
Because, um, because Howie is like really— he's, he's a germaphobe, I guess. He's like he really is, he doesn't shake people's hands because he doesn't like germs. And I mean, he won't touch a doorknob with his hand. It's like that. So I told Natalie, and I k…