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No, so that's why I would say you should have a big conversation, because then you're confronting that, and I think that would make you stronger.
This is really long. How, how long have we been talking about this?
We should just call this guy.
Yeah, you should call him.
Can we just call him on the pod?
No, no, no, he doesn't— he's like not online.
Amazing. He'll never know We wouldn't even say it's a pod.