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Maybe Natalie's a very interesting person without you.
I'm trying to think.
It's like she's interesting with you, but you get a different side of Natalie when you're not around.
Yeah, I'm trying to think, like, what is that exactly?
It's her real being.
You've gotten that real being through.
Yeah, like, it's almost shocking when you get it. Like, I, I can't think of an exact place, but like, I've definitely gone somewhere and you're not there. Maybe like over COVID, like when we were all kind of separated a little bit and like, you see Natalie an…