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You didn't bow out for a while. You like kept trying.
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Like how many people that you would see day to day? Because to me, in my head, like when you describe these stories, I'm like, I see 4 guys and you're one of them. And like, you're surrounded by the greats. And then they just like, didn't give you a chance. L…
There are a lot of people. A lot of people, like, you know, became writers or they became like producers or they left and they made—
You didn't bow out for a while. You like kept trying.
They asked me to stay, and I was like, I really want to be a writer. And they were like, well, no, you can't be a writer, but you can stay. Like, we like you.
What does that mean, stay? Like, stay as an assistant?
Yeah, stay as an assistant. I was well-liked, and I think it— but then there was an offer at MTV to write.