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Okay, so you kind of like— it was almost like a caste system. Yeah, like you dug your own grave by working there, almost dug my own grave.
So then when I got— when I went, I remember my agent was like, it's gonna be really hard for you to get this. And I was like, "Yeah, yeah, I know, I know, but we'll try." And then I remember I got off the audition, I walked out, and they all came up to me and…
Wait, Norm MacDonald was the guy you worked for?
That's who I worked for, yeah.
Did he— was there a moment where he tried to put in a good word for you?
No, it's not like that. He didn't know me as something funny. Oh, he knew me as the guy making the copies. Like, he didn't— I wasn't funny around Norm. Norm was so— no one, no one could be funny around. Like, he was so fun. He was so above and beyond anyone.…
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