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Yeah, he's just a dude. Honestly, and whenever I sit and talk about like my career and like when we started, and I'm just— I'm really fucking lucky. I consider myself lucky to be 20-some years.
Yeah, all of us are. It's fucking bonkers.
Like, still doing what you want to do and what you love to do.
The fact that you—
27 years, is that what you said? '97 we came out, so what's that?
I'm bad at math.
That's—