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That's my thing is that I'm also really good at relaxing. Like, when I first moved here, I would sleep for like 15 hours of the day, dude. I'm king sleeper. I can do— I can be the laziest guy on the planet if I wanted to.
Sleep's a great way to avoid your life.
Yeah, it's kind of brutal. It's like I went through like a time where I was just like nothing was going for me, and every time I'd go to sleep, it's literally— it's an escape from reality. Everything's fucking gone. Yeah, and that's why it's so scary. It's li…
Were you depressed?
I don't know if I was depressed. No, I don't think so. You were sad all the time? Yeah, a bunch. But I think—
what were you sad about?
Um, I was Vining.