DISCUSSING WHAT HAPPENED

And I think, and I think there's things that I haven't really spoken about. Um, I've never spoken about the surgery or the incident in general. Um, so I, I think it's kind of time for that.

And we asked Jeff to come today and be on the podcast. He didn't want to, and we respect that, right? Because I, I would— yeah, I would prefer to do that, to do that with him here, you know.

But that's also a reason I don't like doing any of this stuff.

I just— I think like talking about someone when they're not in the room is like a really strange thing. I think you can tear open a person when they're in the room right next to you and like you're making eye contact, but I think it's a whole nother to talk a…

Yeah.

Um, I don't know. Um, the Jeff thing— yeah, the Jeff thing is, is the fucking worst because before I even say anything, um Like, that is— that day, uh, is like the worst, the worst thing that's ever happened to me. And I wish I could fucking— I would fucking…