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Yeah. Oh, okay, that's a good question. I think, um, Natalie's gonna laugh, but I, I'm already laughing inside my head. I think I've always thought I had like really solid empathy. Yeah, because I am really empathetic when it comes to like strangers. For some reason I'm really good with like people that I've like just met. Um, and I always thought I had good empathy, but I think what I learned recently, and like quite recently, is that it's not only like putting yourself in other people's shoes, but it's like putting yourself in their shoes as them, as the way they process things. I think like I was putting myself in people's shoes and I was just like, oh, that wouldn't bother me, you know what I mean? And like, right, I have a different outlook on a lot of different things. Like the best example I have, and this is going to sound really bizarre to say, but my grandpa passed away when we were in Slovakia. Like it was like, it was I got to see him again and then he passed away and it was really fucking— he passed away the day I was driving back from his house to the hotel in Slovakia. And I haven't seen him in like X amount of years or whatever. And he passed away the day I saw him for the first time. Like, it was really cool. My parents were like almost stoked on it. They were like, at least he got to see you for the last time, whatever. And then I learned that he passed and like I took it as like, I'm gonna see him again. Like, that's how I process those things. Like, it's, it's not to me like I'll never see this human being again, right? And I was just like, I'll just see him next time I see him, like wherever, in heaven or wherever it is. And, and then Todd's grandma passed away recently, and, and Todd was like really going through it, and I wanted to text him. I didn't know what to say exactly, so I remember I texted Natalie. I was like, I want to text him because like I want him to know that I'm there for him. But like, I remember when my grandpa passed away, like I processed it differently. Like I didn't get a text from anybody, and that's because I wasn't like showing that I needed a text from anybody. So like I asked Natalie, I was like, how do I go about this the right way where like he feels that I do care for him, but like I'm— it's also not like fake, it's genuine, but it's coming from a way where like I want to check in if he's okay. So she helped me out with that.

March 9, 202238:56David
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Jason37:00
That's why you haven't said anything.
David37:02
And, and, and I also like, I, I'll see comments sometimes like, did he forget what he did, or did people forget? And it's like, fuck no, I will never forget. I will fucking never forget. I used to, I used to love longboarding and And one day I went down this…
Jason38:41
You think you could, um, what steps are you taking to, to, I don't know, be more— do you think you could be more empathetic in your life?
David38:56
Yeah. Oh, okay, that's a good question. I think, um, Natalie's gonna laugh, but I, I'm already laughing inside my head. I think I've always thought I had like really solid empathy. Yeah, because I am really empathetic when it comes to like strangers. For some reason I'm really good with like people that I've like just met. Um, and I always thought I had good empathy, but I think what I learned re…
Jason41:16
Uh, what did you write? What did you write to Todd? Uh, hey man, you good?
David41:22
Hey man, you want to go to One Oak later to party? Hey man, bottle service on me.
Jason41:27
I mean, that is what you do. You, you make jokes in a bad time.