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Jake, can I say something?
What?
You can't use your phone while we're podcasting. I had to add Jason on Snapchat the other day, like, into a group chat because I wanted to, like, send him a video and on Snap. And dude, I was fucking losing my shit explaining to him how to turn the volume on.…
Imagine you grew up—
and he's still so behind at the same time. How are— how do you balance the two of being so fucking old?
It's difficult.
And so innovative.