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That's how I'm gonna say.
Yeah, yeah. So different.
But to his point, yeah, I agree. Like to be creatively, I guess, for lack of attention, successful.
You're like indebted to this person.
Money.
Yeah, I don't, I don't like that. That's— I never understood that about fucking musicians.
Like, like no one's ever offered to pay me up front, so really it's not a problem.