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What made you think that? Like, how did you feel? Was that moment that was like, oh, this is actually like kind of big, kind of crazy, kind of legit?
It was because I felt like we were doing a lot of cool things at the time and like no one would ever write about it. Like, like I was judging, I was basing my success on like what I knew as success to be like the traditional world. Like even, even when we, ev…
Um, right, but you understand the—
no, I understand that now.
Yeah, I did not get 20 million people, and usually 5% of those numbers weren't real to me.
Like, I agree, like YouTube views, just the same way that like, like the traditional world would scoff at it, I would do the same thing. Yeah, like I'd be like, a YouTuber, who cares what the views they get? Because that's not real. Yeah, that's not— you can'…
Yeah, where were they?