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That's exactly it, David.
All right, roll intro music. Hey guys, this is the Views podcast. I'm David, that's Jason. Um, Natalie and Ilya are here. Ilya's here.
I'm here forever.
Okay.
Yeah, um, Ilya just moved here. Ilya is my friend from my hometown, one of my good friends. He left his business. He's, uh, he was smart.
He's smart in this economy. Great job. Pandemic going on. Yeah, just leave the, the refreshing recession-proof business.
One of the only businesses that are still operating. He decided to leave it. So thank you. But he owned a plumbing company.