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Oh, that's okay. So that's bullshit. No, I'm not even a Theo Von listener.
Yes, guess, guess what I think he should be on there. Guess who got nominated.
Okay, here we go. Who I think is on it? Yeah, I don't actually know podcasters other than Joe Rogan.
Joe Rogan was omitted from this list.
Really?
NPR.
Yes, yes. Up First from NPR. That's the show Up First, which is an NPR show.