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Do you think that's true? Because you go to like a mall here and it's like pretty fucking empty, especially back home in Vernon Hills. The malls are like dead. The stores are clearing out. The names are being ripped off, like the outside of the building.
That big mall that we go to, is that— is that— yeah, people aren't going to that anymore.
No one's going to it. You can get everything online.
I see people there. We're there.
No.
Really? The malls here are full. The Grove's full. The Grove. I think they'll always be— people want to touch clothes, people want to try stuff on. I think they'll always be there, don't you?
Yeah, but Natalie was saying now you can order something and it comes to your house, and if you— if it doesn't fit, you just send it back and it doesn't cost anything.