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It's so weird today.
It's so weird. Today, which is normal, but like, it is kind of— it's a bizarre life in the middle of our lives.
Yes, yes, yes. Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, it's like you're what, you're driving your kids to school at 6:45? Like, that is it. Which it's so crazy because it's like, I'm thinking about that. Like, Zane is 30 now.
Yeah.
Todd is— how old is Todd?