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Yeah, I'm sorry, sorry, I don't mean to cut you off, but I'm still not there yet. Do you know what I mean? Because you brought up 2012.
Yeah, well, it's just like, it's just like the fear factor. Like people were like on a heightened state and 2020 came out of fucking nowhere and everyone, you know, like, hey, there's this virus in Wuhan. Fear factor? Yeah, like, like Joe Rogan? No, not fear.…
Sorry, try again. Cut that out. Go again.
No, I'm not cutting it out.
Oh, we gotta cut it out.
Please.
No, because I, I told Ilya, if he's doing a pod with John, let John be raw. John's got to be wrong.