An Honest Interview With a Criminal

Let's talk about this, Natalie. Oh, let's talk about this because this is the perfect place to talk about it. Jason, Natalie and I were talking about how you're— how you're— you show too much attention to your children.

We've talked about this on the podcast before, and actually Natalie had a nice conversation about it yesterday that you excused yourself from because David goes, stay for the podcast, like that. Like my feelings don't fucking matter in real time.

No, okay, I, I should, I should rephrase that too. And you don't show too much attention but you, um, that's the totally wrong way to phrase it. You, you think that you're not a good dad.

And you like, and you like, and you're like going like, you, you overcompensate and you do way too much because, because of the divorce. I understand that, but I feel like, but I feel because like I'm not—

he keeps giving the microphone to Natalie and then pulling it away, which is about the time.

No, no, I just talk from my own perspective of having like divorced parents where I feel like you try to overcompensate, where a lot of people in in the same situation as Charlie and Wyatt are like lucky to see their, their dad once a week or once every other…