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I used to drive down and see Brandon to do Vines.
Oh yeah, that was weird. How old were you?
I was so old. I was in my 40s.
You were in your 40s and how old was Brandon?
He was like 19.
And you would drive to San Diego to Vine with him, right?
Yeah. What did his— Fullerton, which is, you know, pretty far.